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Re: Help!!!! Drivng on Hatteras Beaches outlawed!!!!

Postby oldtimer » Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:35 am

Mulholland wrote:
waveknave wrote:just wondering, have you ever been outside of the USA?

it is a great country, but just one of many.
I have. Like many American's I have met, they couldn't wait to get back home...Make no mistake, America is the greatest...People literally die to get in, except people who are already rich or have really good welfare programs.

Go to one of the many immigrant neighborhoods (Little Tokyo, Chinatown(s), Mexican barrios, Little Armenia, New York Italians, New York Irish, New York Puerto Ricans, ad infinitum) and ask them if they would rather be here or back where they emigrated from...Like it or not, America is #1.

Of course, socialism and illegal immigration is slowly but surely destroying us.
There are numerous other great countries with a strong influx of immigrants, and many of them choose another country over the US. Open your eyes man....there is one to the North of you. Socialism is a great thing, unless taken to the extreme or overabused. Balance, like anything, is the key.

I suspect you did not enjoy being outside of the US because your attitude and arrogance may as well be painted on your forehead and the locals read you like a book.......probably a good thing for all that you stay home :bye:

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Re: Help!!!! Drivng on Hatteras Beaches outlawed!!!!

Postby Mulholland » Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:50 am

oldtimer wrote:There are numerous other great countries with a strong influx of immigrants, and many of them choose another country over the US. Open your eyes man....there is one to the North of you. Socialism is a great thing, unless taken to the extreme or overabused. Balance, like anything, is the key.
There is a country to the north of us?...You mean Canada?...lol

Socialism breeds corruption, incompetence and a mild form of slavery to the government and beaucrats...Canada's liberal party is a perfect example.

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Re: Help!!!! Drivng on Hatteras Beaches outlawed!!!!

Postby oldtimer » Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:59 am

Mulholland wrote:
oldtimer wrote:There are numerous other great countries with a strong influx of immigrants, and many of them choose another country over the US. Open your eyes man....there is one to the North of you. Socialism is a great thing, unless taken to the extreme or overabused. Balance, like anything, is the key.
There is a country to the north of us?...You mean Canada?...lol
Thanks for making my point for me......and I think I can likely speak for the entire nation - please do us all a favour and keep staying home :remybussi:

With regards to the actual forum topic.....I'm not familiar with Hatteras but I'm pretty sure that if my legs work to get me to the water elsewhere, I think I'd be okay there too. There are already enough cars on the road, why do you want them on the beach? I'm a libertarian, but in this case I don't see a problem with the restriction.....fight to maintain and open up public access to the beach, not the right to drive on it....

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Re: Help!!!! Drivng on Hatteras Beaches outlawed!!!!

Postby Generic-Imitation » Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:04 am

wow a lot of politics got shoved into this topic. ok.. I wanna chime in too! I think the recession that the US is in currently is being done on purpose, for several reasons. Some obvious, some not so obvious. The first one is going to require you to put your thinking caps on.

The US govt. in 2006 had about a 47K per household income level (just rounding here please) while Canada(I love you guys) had about 34-37k per household income level. Now lets travel south to Mexico. They sat at around 13K per household. So if there was to be a "North American Trade Alliance/Agreement" (NAFTA) that would probably be modeled after the EU we would pretty much merge our economies together. The first steps have already been taken by the countries involved. The US is slowly weakening it's economy, so that when NAFTA's end game is ready we can merge without bankrupting ourselves at home in the immediate aftermath that will become AU or whatever they'll call it. If they were to do it now with the disparity between each of the nations, most notably Mexico, Canada and US would be bankrupt within 2 months, not because of any war... but, let me explain it another way.

well look at 3 glasses of water. each of them has a different amount of water. now slice the glass at the lowest level glass along all 3 glasses. The water rushes out of the 2 glasses with more water, but the 3rd glass is still as full as it was before. This is probably a bad way to describe what would happen, but hopefully you get my point.

So on to another topic. GAS PRICES!!! yes the average American is griping about how the price of oil is skyrocketing out of control!! Well, settle down killer. The price of oil isn't going up that quickly, just the American dollar(which oil is traded in) is going down due to inflation rapidly. I'm sure the price has risen, but it's mostly due to the weakening of the dollar, due to the govt. printing money for the war. INFLATION. You know what else has gone up in price? GOLD. Gold is a perfect measurement of inflation. When it rises in such a manner that it has for the last 2 years, you know your currency is going to shit. The historical data proves that the best indicator of runaway inflation is gold. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't know a hedge fund from a double blind trust.

There you go, I'm sure there is plenty of ammo, and I just want to say one more thing before I go. Most Americans while great people(I am an American) are completely oblivious to the world around them. They take everything at face value and never look down the road until their looking a deer in the face.


P.S. I think that the locals know what is best for their beach. If they've been driving on it, I see no reason to stop them.

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Postby Wibbler » Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:11 am

I love it when Mulholland pops his head out of whatever bunker he's been hiding his head (usually up his own jacksie)

It's like a countdown to arrival in Flamers Paradise.

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Re: Help!!!! Drivng on Hatteras Beaches outlawed!!!!

Postby oldtimer » Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:34 pm

Generic-Imitation wrote:wow a lot of politics got shoved into this topic. ok.. I wanna chime in too! I think the recession that the US is in currently is being done on purpose, for several reasons. Some obvious, some not so obvious. The first one is going to require you to put your thinking caps on.

The US govt. in 2006 had about a 47K per household income level (just rounding here please) while Canada(I love you guys) had about 34-37k per household income level. Now lets travel south to Mexico. They sat at around 13K per household. So if there was to be a "North American Trade Alliance/Agreement" (NAFTA) that would probably be modeled after the EU we would pretty much merge our economies together. The first steps have already been taken by the countries involved. The US is slowly weakening it's economy, so that when NAFTA's end game is ready we can merge without bankrupting ourselves at home in the immediate aftermath that will become AU or whatever they'll call it. If they were to do it now with the disparity between each of the nations, most notably Mexico, Canada and US would be bankrupt within 2 months, not because of any war... but, let me explain it another way.

well look at 3 glasses of water. each of them has a different amount of water. now slice the glass at the lowest level glass along all 3 glasses. The water rushes out of the 2 glasses with more water, but the 3rd glass is still as full as it was before. This is probably a bad way to describe what would happen, but hopefully you get my point.

So on to another topic. GAS PRICES!!! yes the average American is griping about how the price of oil is skyrocketing out of control!! Well, settle down killer. The price of oil isn't going up that quickly, just the American dollar(which oil is traded in) is going down due to inflation rapidly. I'm sure the price has risen, but it's mostly due to the weakening of the dollar, due to the govt. printing money for the war. INFLATION. You know what else has gone up in price? GOLD. Gold is a perfect measurement of inflation. When it rises in such a manner that it has for the last 2 years, you know your currency is going to shit. The historical data proves that the best indicator of runaway inflation is gold. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't know a hedge fund from a double blind trust.

There you go, I'm sure there is plenty of ammo, and I just want to say one more thing before I go. Most Americans while great people(I am an American) are completely oblivious to the world around them. They take everything at face value and never look down the road until their looking a deer in the face.


P.S. I think that the locals know what is best for their beach. If they've been driving on it, I see no reason to stop them.
The reason that the USD has caved is simple economics, nothing more. The US floods the World with its currency since it buys far more than it sells. There is no demand for American products, even from Americans.....simple supply and demand, not a great conspiracy to level the playing field.

Regarding gas prices...these " high " prices you now see in the US have been the status quo in other countries for years, yet they function normally and remain competitive and are a non-issue. This is just a lousy excuse for an inefficient and uncompetitive business culture. The US has benefited from an unfair advantage in the past (cheap resources), and now that this advantage is dwindling, it is no longer competitive on a global scale.

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Re: Help!!!! Drivng on Hatteras Beaches outlawed!!!!

Postby speedreef » Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:40 am

obx kiters

after you kill all the little birds

fly down to cumbuco brasil

and help all the kiters

run over the last of the sea turtles

the big bump-bump you feel as you roll over them is much more satisfying then the that tiny squish-squish your used to

tee hee
(oops)

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Re: Help!!!! Drivng on Hatteras Beaches outlawed!!!!

Postby 20 m or bust » Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:06 pm

Mulholland is my hero. He is right on.

1. Env. keep us from getting oil in US.
2. Ethanol raises food prices. Wheat up 93% in the last year. Rain forrest being slash at an alarming rate to grow corn. Biggest cash crop around. Amer. govt had mandated more and more ethanol each year. So much corn into ethanol that global hunger will surely worsen.
3. Socialism is coming to america and Socialism does not equal freedom. We used to be for freedom...not being cared for cradle to grave.


We drive on our beaches in Texas. Not even 4X4 required. In most places any car will do. I'm sure if I looked, there is some movement to change that to. I'm sure the web footed somethin or other is trying to live there.

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Re: Help!!!! Drivng on Hatteras Beaches outlawed!!!!

Postby Mulholland » Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:12 am

speedreef wrote:the big bump-bump you feel as you roll over them is much more satisfying then the that tiny squish-squish your used to

tee hee
(oops)
I must admit the snowy plover is a very cute creature...I bet it tastes like chicken... :naughty:


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