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Re: Help needed: XR5 and carbon drive Beginner

Postby iriejohn » Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:18 am

Feseroni wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:57 pm
Thanks for your advice. I changed the kite size and now I’m looking at a shinn monk 137x44. I think the extra width will help me to progress faster at the beginning .

Thanks a lot
I had a Shinn Monk for 3 years, great board. I'm 81kg and mine was 135x42 which I used from 15 to 30 knots, but I guess at 15-20 knots with an 11m kite a 137x44 would perhaps be better.

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Re: Help needed: XR5 and carbon drive Beginner

Postby alexeyga » Sat Dec 30, 2017 5:01 am

iriejohn wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:18 am
Feseroni wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:57 pm
Thanks for your advice. I changed the kite size and now I’m looking at a shinn monk 137x44. I think the extra width will help me to progress faster at the beginning .

Thanks a lot
I had a Shinn Monk for 3 years, great board. I'm 81kg and mine was 135x42 which I used from 15 to 30 knots, but I guess at 15-20 knots with an 11m kite a 137x44 would perhaps be better.
Hmmmm, I'm 90-92kg and Monk 42 is my main twintip... I do find the Monk a bit power-hungry, less so than the Bronq though - and I do get ripped of the edge from time to time when going for a jump with anything trimmed-in more than half-way... And the original poster is lighter than me or you for that matter... So I do really feel like questioning that 44 width... :jump: :rollgrin: :baby:

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Re: Help needed: XR5 and carbon drive Beginner

Postby iriejohn » Sat Dec 30, 2017 5:46 am

alexeyga wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2017 5:01 am
iriejohn wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:18 am
Feseroni wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:57 pm
Thanks for your advice. I changed the kite size and now I’m looking at a shinn monk 137x44. I think the extra width will help me to progress faster at the beginning .

Thanks a lot
I had a Shinn Monk for 3 years, great board. I'm 81kg and mine was 135x42 which I used from 15 to 30 knots, but I guess at 15-20 knots with an 11m kite a 137x44 would perhaps be better.
Hmmmm, I'm 90-92kg and Monk 42 is my main twintip... I do find the Monk a bit power-hungry, less so than the Bronq though - and I do get ripped of the edge from time to time when going for a jump with anything trimmed-in more than half-way... And the original poster is lighter than me or you for that matter... So I do really feel like questioning that 44 width... :jump: :rollgrin: :baby:
I also question the 44 width which is why I said "perhaps", but bearing in mind that the OP said ...

"I’m still learning to control the board and working on extending my rides, no upwind skills yet."

... he's still very much a beginner. If he's struggling the extra width would help but once he gets the hang of edging upwind then he would certainly no longer need the extra width.

What do you think?

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Re: Help needed: XR5 and carbon drive Beginner

Postby alexeyga » Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:49 pm

iriejohn wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2017 5:46 am
I also question the 44 width which is why I said "perhaps", but bearing in mind that the OP said ...

"I’m still learning to control the board and working on extending my rides, no upwind skills yet."

... he's still very much a beginner. If he's struggling the extra width would help but once he gets the hang of edging upwind then he would certainly no longer need the extra width.

What do you think?
Fair point, bigger board at this stage will definitely help, but at 75kg - IMHO - even the 135X42 is kinda big. I've started with the 135X48 - and that board was such a blast to get going, but it was also a pig in chop - really hard on ankles.

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Re: Help needed: XR5 and carbon drive Beginner

Postby bazzamac » Sat Dec 30, 2017 4:16 pm

Carbon boards are far more forgiving on the ankles. When I was in a quandary trying to decide on board size and width for my weight, conditions, riding style etc.. I got in touch with West of http://brokite.com/ explained everything and he recommended a board and laid up the carbon on it to my requirements. I ended up with the 138 Hybrid and needless to say it's amazing, took a little getting used to after riding non carbon boards, but I couldn't be happier and so glad I spent a few dollars more.

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Re: Help needed: XR5 and carbon drive Beginner

Postby iriejohn » Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:18 pm

alexeyga wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:49 pm
iriejohn wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2017 5:46 am
I also question the 44 width which is why I said "perhaps", but bearing in mind that the OP said ...

"I’m still learning to control the board and working on extending my rides, no upwind skills yet."

... he's still very much a beginner. If he's struggling the extra width would help but once he gets the hang of edging upwind then he would certainly no longer need the extra width.

What do you think?
Fair point, bigger board at this stage will definitely help, but at 75kg - IMHO - even the 135X42 is kinda big. I've started with the 135X48 - and that board was such a blast to get going, but it was also a pig in chop - really hard on ankles.
OK Feseroni, I think the bottom line is this:

If you start with the 137x44 Monk you will find it easier to get up and going, but when you are going you'll soon find the board too wide for you. To be honest you then probably won't want to be on it any more.

If you start with the 135x42 Monk it won't be quite as easy to get going but when you are going you'll find the board more controllable and much more fun than the bigger board.


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