Can't say I agree about the novelty aspect, I do it all the time on my directional, I expect that it will be fun on the foil. I usually don't go full side by side but put the feet at 45 degrees.Re: shoulders forward..... Sorry, just cant dig it. like sitting or lying down on your foil. Novelty at best. Narrowing your base decreases agility. For any kind of dynamic carving, riding swell.... sideways stance is where its at!
went out in very challenging conditions yesterday, it was a battle to even get through the waves crashing me backwards in the gusty direct onshore winds, the confused heavy sea made it impossible for me to move my position to feet forward and together, shoulders facing forward.Foil wrote: ↑Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:06 pmI am now using that stance(feet together snow ski style) but only in the right conditions,Laughingman wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:33 pminteresting would it not be easy to switch your feet from that position? You are already half way there...
not rough water with swell as I struggle to find the right body position when sailing over-up and down the waves and for getting high upwind.
Switching feet from that stance is for me not easy, not yet anyways, the falls are many, the board flys off violently and finding the right moment to do the switch is my big problem, it really is quite scary as there's no time for recovery if i get it even slightly wrong,and the move needs total commitment (and a deep breath)
you need to be so precise in the switch, and very fast.
ALSO I was surprised that when I touch down to see if i can cheat and use the water to stabilize me during the switch, the board is so much more unstable due to both feet being together, reminded me of sailing a windsurf board dead downwind with feet close together on a rough sea.
one day last week I managed loads of switches, with many many more crashes,then the next day in gusty winds and rough seas I managed just one, after which i gave up and gybed round to toeside instead for the rest of the day.
practice practice practice, and more practice.
and If I cant get it right for a 95% success rate then I will just fly round the corners facing forward feet together style, which does feel very much like i am skiing,
only much smoother.
Well, those are my comments, and I'll add to them. Ski stance or forward facing might be a teeny tiny itty bitty bit helpful in developing a more rounded balance and control, but there is something to be said for aesthetics. I simply think its like so much airstyle, or 95% of airs on a foil. It just looks whack. Personal opinion of course, but I generally aim to avoid lame and awkward in all aspects of life. As to developing a deeper level of skill..... meh. Your better off ascribing to the "never stop riding" school of thought, where if your still in contact with the board, your still actively driving for recovery. Leads to a far greater variety of foot positions, balance points, and orientations than one could ever plan for. In learning new things on a foil there are soooooo many half falls where having not given up on directing the board with your feet (no matter how bad or underwater its position). If you can direct it, and regain your orientation above the wing you can usually pop right back up onto the foil with a quick spin of the kite. Began on surfboards when falling on landings or in white water. One toe can lead to a ride away recovery where giving up too early means a loose board hazard for others and a drag back into the beach. Foiling with a low volume board has taken it to the next level. I often approach the board in the water feet first. Tipping the near rail at the tail with my back foot makes it easy to manipulate into launch position hands free while tensioning the lines for a quick and seamless take off. Looks about 100 times slicker than flying around ski stance.K-Roy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:07 pm"Re: shoulders forward..... Sorry, just cant dig it. like sitting or lying down on your foil. Novelty at best. Narrowing your base decreases agility. For any kind of dynamic carving, riding swell.... sideways stance is where its at!"
Correct!
If you look at it from the technical point of you...
However, IMO if you master all these "gimmicks" you will not only have enough fun to give you a smile, but you will increase your sence of balance, coordination, board controll, which will come handy in the traditional way of riding as well.
And to be fair, I think it falls in the FreeStyle category...
cheers
To me, it's well inside the fun zone, not as a full time style but for sections of tacks, why not?It just looks whack.
You bet. That's when you move your feet back.For any kind of dynamic carving, riding swell.... sideways stance is where its at!
Slick as dog snot. Always a high point of my session when I'm hitting it.I often approach the board in the water feet first. Tipping the near rail at the tail with my back foot makes it easy to manipulate into launch position hands free while tensioning the lines for a quick and seamless take off.
No one watching understands or cares. Also you're so far offshore with the foil they would need spotting glasses to see you. Also a guy just did a double dangle board grab right by the parking lot so you're basically invisible. You cover that ground all the time.Looks about 100 times slicker than flying around ski stance.
How low is low volume and how has it taken your riding to the next level? Can you still foil in ultra low winds like 7 - 8 knots with your low volume board?jumptheshark wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:12 pmFoiling with a low volume board has taken it to the next level. I often approach the board in the water feet first. Tipping the near rail at the tail with my back foot makes it easy to manipulate into launch position hands free while tensioning the lines for a quick and seamless take off. Looks about 100 times slicker than flying around ski stance.
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