Westozzy wrote:Oh crap picked the wrong quote button sorry I was replying kite heaven dude.
The real story on the 9m Screamer in bold he didnt know by K2H
The Screamer I feel is built to make you scream! It is built to jump!
Made for intermediate to advanced riders who wanted to go very high and hit freestyle tricks
Much easier to edge, send, crank and fly.
Because in conjuction with a very Talented designer Momi - they understood you dont need to have fast forward speed to create Lift and in the design you dont have to fight to hold a kite on the beach like the Old days - just push the bar out, its called depower...
The lift is extraordinary. This kite is like what others have said...it rips you off the water.
Yes thats because of the huge lift or pressure difference - in wing design at a lower airspeed passing over it, than the Edge. High aspect does not mean high lift - dont confuse the two !
Because its a well designed kite, It takes much less technique and finesse than the edge,
Thats because people got sick of flying 2 liners they had to fight on the beach...
but be careful as you will go big! Hang time is also something special, and with the right technique landing is soft as butter. This kite also relies a lot less on generating controlled speed than the edge.
But everything is more 'harsh'.
Interesting description - I 'd call it direct power you dont have to wait for to build.
The bar pressure is higher...well to turn the kite anyhow.
The bar pressure is medium as far as bar pressure goes, probably your RSI injury - so not a good indication
It doesn't generate the apparent wind of the edge hence must be actively flown...but it still does generate apparent wind, don't get me wrong, but nothing like the edge.
Thats because its a High jump kite and not the 'Epic Racer kite' becoming available.
If you don't believe me, get on the end of an edge just during a launch. Needn't walk down to the water it will drag your ass down there!
Thats the lack of depower in the Edge design rather like the good old short throw C kites but they cleverly designed the depower to come from your board.
Every time I launch the edge in it medium to high end per size I always think man maybe I have too much power here.
Depower again
But when you get on the water, all this pull is easily generated into speed and upwind angle and ultimately for me, jumping ability.
Yes a good floaty jumping kite - best performance is for speed / racing as designed though
The screamer is worth looking into for sure
As a high jump kite as specifically designed...
( as I did) but I cannot go past the refined feel of the edge...nothing comes close ...in my humble opinion of course,
In our Humble Opinions of course
The Edge is a Great Race kite that is slow across the window, compared to others and not a fast turning high jumping kite.
No revelations there.
Still waiting to see them win the Speed records if there that good.
I tried the 7m edge and although going higher than anyone else in 30knots it didnt jump as high or Loop as my 7m allrounder kite - thats not a Screamer either,
Im not sponsored or byast to any brand - If I find one that goes higher and ticks the boxs, Im buying it !!!
For those who think so, that started to cry -
Dont bullshit yourselves that it goes higher than other Specific Jump kites on the market that actually have enough "Refinement" called depower, to stand on the beach at 12oclock in strong winds!!
And just one more thing - if I wanted to get dragged down the beach, Id get back out in 30knots on my old short throw 12m C kites that used the board as depower - yeah a basic skill some of you seem to think special