That is a lot of GRUNT....thank you not using the "F" word...time now for a Milk Bone ....Woof! Woof!Oldnbroken wrote:Trying not to feed the troll but....
SHUT THE HELL UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is a lot of GRUNT....thank you not using the "F" word...time now for a Milk Bone ....Woof! Woof!Oldnbroken wrote:Trying not to feed the troll but....
SHUT THE HELL UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ok Mr.PVITfrumBYRAM, let's just say that day the wind meter on top of the KHK building was reading (8-10 mph). If it was blowing that much I would have had more power on the water and you could see more resistance on the board and more splashing around me. But from barely moving on the SUB and some times staying still that means that there was no more then 5 knots up there. It is as simple as this. Just check the video and do some detective work and you will see that it was less then 5 knots. That is if you know anything about sailing and wind. Plus check the lines of the kite they have barely any tensions on them. Which means that the kite had barely any wind in it. So on the water it was for sure blowing (0 knots) but up there it was probably (2 to 4 knots). Why do you think the other guy with his 21 foil kite did not go out that day!!!! He could even inflate his kite.Poster: PVITfrumBYRAM
In that video with the yellow infinity and ZERO wind, the wind meter on top of the building that day was reading 8-10 mph. Just sayin'
Most of the things I agree with your opinionsBellow 6 knots, I'm sure you can find high aspect kites with more low end (Ex. Flysurfer 21m).
It can be misleading if the water is much colder than the air. It that situation you can have almost no wind at water level but 10 knots at 75 feet.
But on Dimitri's video, the kite is parked 25 feet above water. So probably same wind than at ground level.
Conclusion : let's stick with what we can see, feel and measure with an anemometer at arm lenght in an open area.
So what's the point? The point is that medium aspect inflatable lightwind kites can :
- turn much faster than high aspect kites
- water relaunch in almost now wind (3-4 knots)
- have great pop
- be cost effective
The truth comes out!PVITfrumBYRAM wrote:I was there, I watched the meter. Your kite staying in the air was impressive, your ability to Stand-up kite (SUK) was also impressive. There was certainly more than 2-3 knots. I know that buildings can accelerate winds, they can also block winds. Your 2.5 knot reading came from the guy with the wind meter on top of his van.
It was a unique day for weather. Sunny but hazy, the gradient on the water was not indicative of what the wind speed actually was. Many kites of similar size could fly that day but those people with those kites did not have a bunch of groupies hanging around hoping to see some magic happen. Personally I like your kites, I just don't like the approach as much. That's great you are getting people stoked at how well the kite can fly in such light conditions, but the reality is it was more than 2-4 knots. Maybe it was that light during a lull on the water and that's why you dropped the kite in the water, but there was a steady breeze.
As for the gentleman with the 21 meter foil, he was inexperienced and could barely fly that kite in 8-10 mph on a different day.
In response, the following was posted by a knowledgeable local:Dimitri M wrote:3 to 6 knots
Despite the claimed performance in "3-6k", quite clearly, the Epic Infinity cannot perform on a SUP until >10mph (9k).SupaEZ wrote: ... the Patrick Air Force Base windmeter reading (is) just a few miles upwind of Dimitri: Wind was SSW 200 degrees...that is why the ocean is so glassy...i should know i live here 30 years. He was out between 2 and 4 pm.... we see clearly that the wind was always more than........... 10 mph .......those are government's wind meters....very accurate...