Thanks for taking the time to write that, bw! Exactly the info I was looking for.bigwave wrote:...I think you would not be disappointed with 2013, but it is a whole different feel . I think its a positive move.
U change kites every year? CoolCaptainArgh wrote:Thanks for taking the time to write that, bw! Exactly the info I was looking for.bigwave wrote:...I think you would not be disappointed with 2013, but it is a whole different feel . I think its a positive move.
not really...a couple seasons. 2012 came out in 2011, so i've been on my 12s for two seasons. like to move on while they are still worth a good bit in re-sale. not sure I want to get rid of my '12 14M, though...jrfiol wrote:...U change kites every year? Cool
I think they are the same. I used to get that tip folding on my 2011 when overpowered, but don't get it on my 2012. SS said they changed something but I laid the two kites out and couldn't find anything. So, not sure if the improved performance was just on my end (pump harder, fly smarter) or it did change.jrfiol wrote:I am still on my 2011 rally 14m. Would u say the 2012 has the same upper end that the 2011?
Probably about the same for me.jrfiol wrote:I use thia kite up till about 18kts.
Absolutely not in 15kts....that's the sweet spot for me!jrfiol wrote:Dis the wings fold on u? I use all settings on the wing tip, but the furthest one out resulted in wing tip folding in 15kts
Thanks, Bob. I ride both.toyletbowl wrote:Captain,
Are you riding mostly twin tips, surf boards or both?
The guys above are spot on. To add to it, the new 2013's have 3 struts plus 2 mini struts to help aid stability and less leach flutter. It's also a different profile in being a bit higher aspect, so it goes up wind a little better than 2012 14m. If bigger sizes, this can actually be a bigger advantage.
The reason I asked on surf boards is that I prefer the 2012's on surf boards. All sizes.
When riding fast and going into a turn, it's easier to lessen the pull on the 2012's. 2013's tend to want to pull me off the board. I ride strapless. That is partially due to the 2012 having a pivot turn if needed and the 2013 is more of an arcing turn.
Almost everything else though I prefer the 2013. Goes upwind better, jumps better for sure with better feel and more stable. Range might be a little better also.
I hope this helps,
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