OK i finally found time to post the email communications.
Here is a summary:
Feb 1st carafino says boards will ship before end of Feb.
Feb 18th He says 12 boards are going to Florida by march 15th.
March 10th he says "Where getting it ready".
March 20th He reports he caught Dengue fever and that his proaction manager vanished in the missing Malaysian flight.
April 1st he says boards are ready and he is preparing a shipment to LA
Apri 7th he says a large shipment is on the way to LAX.
April 18th I asked for tracking and he said he is waiting for the shipper to supply hiim with the "tracking flight route".
April 23rd he says this is the foil shipment going out tomorrow.
April 25th he says they will ship tomorrow.
May 2nd i received a fedex tracking number.
May 7th i emailed him telling him i got the boards but no foils or bindings.
May 10th he says missing parts will arrive with the foils.
May 16th he says "this week will come the other goods"'.
May 24th he says "we are preparing the foils".
June 12th he says the foils are coming late next week.
June 15th he says he is waiting for the foils to arrive.
June 19th i told him I'm tired of waiting and prefer a refund if he can't deliver.
There are some more communications but he still has not deliver the foils. I and 3 others in FL have submitted a dispute to our credit card companies and they are investingaing. I also filed police reports. This will probably go to civlil court. Anyone who is a victim of this scam, please contribute, file police reports and keep all records. Its recommended that you dispute your CC charges before 6 months of purchase date.
See emails below.
Hello Adam:
How are you?
I have arrived back at home in Bali, but still working on this project. Thanks for your email. I have your dispute with the bank, thank you.
I have some family in the area of where you are. I am deciding how to manage your situation. Either I will have the boards picked up and refund your card, which is the most easiest for all of us. No need to pack it up and send it out. Please be sure not to let the boards become damage.
I will contact you tomorrow, once I have the logistics sorted out.
Thanks, Carrion
From: Adam Bator <
adambator@yahoo.com>
To: carafino <
info@carafino.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 3:58 AM
Subject: Re: 2-4-1 Hydrofoils
So what's the deal bro?
From: carafino <
foilboarding@yahoo.com>;
To: Adam Bator <
adambator@yahoo.com>;
Subject: Re: 2-4-1 Hydrofoils
Sent: Sat, Jun 21, 2014 5:05:52 PM
Hello Adam:
Is there any issue with your boards? Are you unhappy with the boards? I understand the delay has you upset and rightly so, however, I want to learn if the boards are with some issue.
From: Adam Bator <
adambator@yahoo.com>
To: carafino <
info@carafino.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 8:30 AM
Subject: Re: 2-4-1 Hydrofoils
Ok last we talked you told me that the foils would be here late this week. Do you have a tracking number for me yet? If u can't deliver please refund me. I'm tired of this game.
From: carafino <
foilboarding@yahoo.com>;
To: Adam Bator <
adambator@yahoo.com>;
Subject: Re: 2-4-1 Hydrofoils
Sent: Sun, Jun 15, 2014 7:49:54 PM
HELLO ADAM:
HOW ARE YOU? OK, FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF YOU ARE KITING FRIENDS WITH THIS GUY? :
Mr. ****** Jones
*****@att.net
******* Jon******
1**********idge Ct
Jacksonville, Florida 32225
NEXT, I WANT TO KNOW IF YOU HAVE YOUR BOARDS. SORRY I HAVE IT WRITTEN DOWN THAT YOU DO BUT WANT TO CONFIRM THAT YOU DO ONE FINAL TIME.
FINALLY. I AM AWAITING FOILS TO ARRIVE ME AND I AM IN THE USA TO DO SO. OUR SHIPPER WORKS ON CASH UPFRONT ONLY. SO WE HAVE HAD TO MANAGE THE PAYMENT.
WE ARE ABOUT 20,000 USD OUT ON BOARD SHIPMENTS, AND NOW WE WILL BE PREPARING THE FOIL SHIPMENTS FROM CALIFORNIA ONCE THEY ARRIVE INBOUND FROM OVERSEAS.
I HAVE NOT BEEN NEGLECTING YOU.
IN THE USA, YOU CANNOT WIRE FUNDS ABROAD ONLINE, YOU HAVE TO DO BY PRE SIGNED DOCUMENTS WITH THE BANK, WE RAN OUT OF THOSE SIGNED DOCS. I AM NOW ON MAUI TO GO INTO THE BANK TOMORROW TO SIGN MORE DOCS AND PULL THE SHPPING FUNDS REQUIRED FOR THE FOILS.
AFTER WE GET EVERYONE THEIR FOILS, I WILL NO LONGER MAKE THESE ANYMORE, IT WAS AN EXCITING PROJECT AND IT TOOK LONGER TO COMPLETE THAN I WANTED. BUT I KNOW EASIER WAYS TO MAKE A LIVING AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, I WOULD RATHER GO RIDE ONE THAN DEAL WITH ALL THE PRESSURES OF TRYING TO KEEP EVERYONE HAPPY ON A TWO FOR ONE DEAL.
WHAT STOCK WE HAVE LEFT OVER WILL RETAIL FOR 3000 USD EACH.
I WILL RETURN TO CALIFORNIA ON TUES.
TALK SOON. CARAFINO
808 870 9073
From: Adam Bator <
adambator@yahoo.com>
To: carafino <
info@carafino.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2014 7:25 AM
Subject: Re: 2-4-1 Hydrofoils
well???
From: carafino <
foilboarding@yahoo.com>;
To: Adam Bator <
adambator@yahoo.com>;
Subject: Re: 2-4-1 Hydrofoils
Sent: Sat, Jun 14, 2014 11:14:31 PM
Adam, you have two boards correct?
----- Forwarded Message -----
From: carafino <
foilboarding@yahoo.com>
To: Adam Bator <
adambator@yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 8:37 AM
Subject: Re: 2-4-1 Hydrofoils
Hi Adam,
Just confirming you have two boards, with screws and ring flat washers for the foot strap attachment?
You require the bolts for attaching the foil and the foot straps + hydrofoils complete?
Please confirm, we are preparing the foils and I want to be certain I include all in your package.
Carafino
From: Adam Bator <
adambator@yahoo.com>
To: carafino <
info@carafino.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 12:11 AM
Subject: Re: 2-4-1 Hydrofoils
Happy Monday Carafino, Just looking for an update. Will the foils be coming soon? I was told last week in the previous email. Please advise.
Thanks,
Adam
From: carafino <
foilboarding@yahoo.com>
To: "
adambator@yahoo.com" <
adambator@yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: 2-4-1 Hydrofoils
This week will come the other goods.
From: Adam Bator <
adambator@yahoo.com>
To: carafino <
info@carafino.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 10:04 PM
Subject: Re: 2-4-1 Hydrofoils
OK thanks. can u PLEASE tell me when approx u will be shipping the rest?
From: carafino <
foilboarding@yahoo.com>;
To:
adambator@yahoo.com <
adambator@yahoo.com>;
Subject: Re: 2-4-1 Hydrofoils
Sent: Sat, May 10, 2014 12:03:32 AM
THEY WILL ARRIVE WITH THE FOILS, STRAPS AND HARD WARE TO ATTACH THE FOIL.
From: Adam Bator <
adambator@yahoo.com>
To: carafino <
info@carafino.com>
Sent: Friday, May 9, 2014 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: 2-4-1 Hydrofoils
No long bolts, no straps, no foils,. Just two boards a strip of styrofoam and 2 bags of washers. Each board does have four screws in the top for the straps.
From: carafino <
foilboarding@yahoo.com>;
To: Adam Bator <
adambator@yahoo.com>;
Subject: Re: 2-4-1 Hydrofoils
Sent: Fri, May 9, 2014 12:21:34 AM
HI Adam:
Thanks for the email and the pic. The pads are two different styles. That is why it lacks the upper piece.
There should have been straps in the box. What material was in your box aside from the boards and the screw and washer?
Are there long bolts of 4 cm in the board in the diamond attachment box underneath the board?
Back to you.
From: Adam Bator <
adambator@yahoo.com>
To: Christopher CARAFINO <
foilboarding@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, May 9, 2014 4:37 AM
Subject: Re: 2-4-1 Hydrofoils
Photo attached. Maybe its supposed to be that way on the white board, im not sure. No straps in the box but there are two bags of washers. Please tell me, when will you be shipping the foils? It's the foils and T-bar that i need. I am willing to pay for expedited shipping.
Thanks,
Adam
From: Christopher CARAFINO <
foilboarding@yahoo.com>
To: Adam Bator <
adambator@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: 2-4-1 Hydrofoils
please send a photo of the missing part. there was no foot straps in the box?
Sent on the go by Apple device. Thanks for contacting me & I will reply you in greater detail shortly. . .Mango.
On May 7, 2014, at 3:49 AM, Adam Bator <
adambator@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hello Mr. Carafino,
I received the package today but there were only two boards in the package. No bindings and no foils. Can you tell me when i should expect the next package with the bindings and foils please?
Also, the white board is missing the front part of the foot padding. Can you please send this piece to me?
Thanks,
Adam
From: carafino <
foilboarding@yahoo.com>
To: Adam Bator <
adambator@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, May 2, 2014 12:54 AM
Subject:
794947799158
fedex.com
Re: Good to Go
carafino Apr 26
To
adambator@yahoo.com
It will leave CA. tomorrow. We just took custody of the boards from the customs warehouse.
From: Adam Bator <
adambator@yahoo.com>
To: carafino <
info@carafino.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: Good to Go
Did the boards ship out to Fort Lauderdale Florida yet? When will it arrive?
From: Adam Bator <
adambator@yahoo.com>;
To: carafino <
info@carafino.com>;
Subject: Re: Good to Go
Sent: Fri, Apr 25, 2014 1:42:05 AM
Did it ship to Fort Lauderdale Florida? When will it arrive?
From: carafino <
foilboarding@yahoo.com>
To: "
adambator@yahoo.com" <
adambator@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: Good to Go
Yes, this is the foil shipment. It is being released later today from customs finally. So we have it tomorrow and get it out.
From: Adam Bator <
adambator@yahoo.com>
To: carafino <
info@carafino.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: Good to Go
Okay just making sure. You are sending me two boards and two foils in this shipment?
From: carafino <
foilboarding@yahoo.com>;
To:
adambator@yahoo.com <
adambator@yahoo.com>;
Subject: Re: Good to Go
Sent: Tue, Apr 22, 2014 1:27:07 PM
NO PROBLEM. YOUR BOARD CLEARS CUSTOMS TOMORROW IN LAX. RELEASED AND GOING TO FLORIDA, F.L.
From: Adam Bator <
adambator@yahoo.com>
To: carafino <
info@carafino.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: Good to Go
I'm in Florida.
From: carafino <
foilboarding@yahoo.com>;
To: Adam Bator <
adambator@yahoo.com>;
Subject: Re: Good to Go
Sent: Tue, Apr 22, 2014 5:50:55 AM
Hello Adam:
I arrive tomorrow evening into Long Beach and pick up the boards on Thrusday. Can meet with you to deliver.
From: Adam Bator <
adambator@yahoo.com>
To: carafino <
info@carafino.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: Good to Go
Hey bro, it's been two weeks since you sent me a message saying my foils were on their way to the US. Do you have an update for me?
From: carafino <
foilboarding@yahoo.com>
To: "
adambator@yahoo.com" <
adambator@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 2:40 AM
Subject: Re: Good to Go
I am waiting on the shipper to supply me with the tracking flight route for the goods.
From: Adam Bator <
adambator@yahoo.com>
To: carafino <
info@carafino.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: Good to Go
OK. will do. thx! when should I expect to see them?
From: carafino <
foilboarding@yahoo.com>;
To: Adam Bator <
adambator@yahoo.com>;
Subject: Re: Good to Go
Sent: Tue, Apr 15, 2014 11:27:21 PM
PLEASE KEEP THE NO CHARGE TO YOURSELF OR I WILL HAVE EVERYONE DEMANDING THE SAME.
From: Adam Bator <
adambator@yahoo.com>
To: carafino <
info@carafino.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: Good to Go
Please provide me with more details like when i will see it at my door and a tracking number would be great! Thx!
From: carafino <
foilboarding@yahoo.com>
To: "
adambator@yahoo.com" <
adambator@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: Good to Go
Large shipment on the way to LAX.
From: Adam Bator <
adambator@yahoo.com>
To: carafino <
info@carafino.com>
Sent: Friday, April 4, 2014 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: Good to Go
I hear you bro but its been over 2 months already. Do you have a shipping date for me yet? I saw your video online man, the foil looks sweet! I also heard you say that you were possibly going to throw in some freebies for those who had to wait. If you do happen I would love an extra pair of wings. Either way man please try to give me a date because all we're having is light wind down here and I need a foil bad!
Blessing,
Adam
From: carafino <
foilboarding@yahoo.com>;
To:
adambator@yahoo.com <
adambator@yahoo.com>;
Subject: Re: Good to Go
Sent: Tue, Apr 1, 2014 2:08:48 PM
Your boards are ready. I am preparing a large shipment by air to LA. Will advise further shortly. Carafino
From: Adam Bator <
adambator@yahoo.com>
To: carafino <
info@carafino.com>
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: Good to Go
Hey bro when will our boards be shipped?
From: carafino <
foilboarding@yahoo.com>;
To: Adam Bator <
adambator@yahoo.com>;
Subject: Re: Good to Go
Sent: Thu, Mar 20, 2014 11:10:53 PM
Hello Adam:
Sorry I am late, as you know I have had Dengue, but I am stronger now. We also lost our production of foils manager in the Malaysia missing plane. I have not made that public. But we took a blow on that. Our silence has been from our regrouping and also from my illness.
We are coming back online here this week. I will have shipments going out. Thanks for your patience.
Carafino
From: Adam Bator <
adambator@yahoo.com>
To: carafino <
info@carafino.com>
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 5:58 AM
Subject: Re: Good to Go
Hey buddy, do you have a tracking number for me yet?
From: carafino <
foilboarding@yahoo.com>
To: "
adambator@yahoo.com" <
adambator@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: Good to Go
where getting it ready.
From: Adam Bator <
adambator@yahoo.com>
To: carafino <
info@carafino.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 9, 2014 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: Good to Go
Hey bro, did they ship yet?
From: carafino <
foilboarding@yahoo.com>;
To:
adambator@yahoo.com <
adambator@yahoo.com>;
Subject: Re: Good to Go
Sent: Tue, Feb 18, 2014 2:57:05 PM
We are shipping before march 15th. but usa will get it a bit earlier. i will just use march 15th as the date so in case something is a miss we are not putting the date back. but all is looking good. Mango
From: Adam Bator <
adambator@yahoo.com>
To: carafino <
info@carafino.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: Good to Go
Awesome! So what do you think while I have them in two weeks or sooner?
From: carafino <
foilboarding@yahoo.com>;
To:
adambator@yahoo.com <
adambator@yahoo.com>;
Subject: Re: Good to Go
Sent: Tue, Feb 18, 2014 2:38:39 PM
Yes, I have 12 boards getting ready to go to florida. two are yours. I am in China picking up foot pads and straps. then return to bali and prepare shipping.
From: Adam Bator <
adambator@yahoo.com>
To: carafino <
info@carafino.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: Good to Go
Hey bud, how's it looking on the shipping? Do you have a an e.t.a for me?
From: carafino <
foilboarding@yahoo.com>
To: Adam Bator <
adambator@yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2014 9:13 PM
Subject: Re: Good to Go
Hello Adam:Thanks for the email, sorry to get back to you a day late, but Sunday today so I rested. The ink on your purchase order has barely dried. What has you so impatience?Is there some new propaganda on the internet that we are going to be late or something? I am trying to get your board out before end of Feb. Should not be an issue. We would have gotten the boards out already, but the Chinese New Year holiday delayed our delivery of foot straps and foot pads. This is what we are waiting for. Back to you. Carafino
From: Adam Bator <
adambator@yahoo.com>
To: carafino <
info@carafino.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2014 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: Good to Go
Hey brother! Can you give me an idea of when i should receive the hydrofoils? I'm stoked bro, stoked!
On Sunday, January 26, 2014 9:56 AM, carafino <
foilboarding@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hello Adam:How are you? I write to confirm to you that the transaction has been completed with split card billing. I am extremely consumed in my work, that is to say, getting everyone their boards complete. I want to express my thanks and gratitude for your business and if you have any questions at any time. Just reach out to me via email or sms me using my personal number.+6281237891512Best, Mango Carrion