What's the bar sizing on the new OR bar?ORSales wrote:Our Control Bar will feature
- Rear line adjustors (to retune your bar once front lines stretch)
- 850lb 21m, stretch and wear resistant lines
- Reversible pig tails for compatibility with any company's kite
Regarding line extensions, we include those with our kites not our bars but obviously, they are not hard to come across.
John Z ~ OR
Hi Slappy - just to be clear, all 4 of our lines are the same length before the rear line pigtails are added so it would be easy to simply fly the bar without any pigtails if your kite requires all 4 lines be equal length.Slappysan wrote:I hope you guys move away from unequal line lengths via the lack of 2 pigtails that you've been doing in the past and provide 4 pigtails at even lengths for this new system John.
52cm to start! We may introduce a smaller bar too but for now have gone with one size only.Da Yoda wrote:What's the bar sizing on the new OR bar?
BWS & GIN offer their bars in 17" & 20" (44 & 52cm). Ikon's is 45cm only. Caution's is ?
I like the unification of brands using the same bar design. Also makes getting replacement parts much more versatile.
Seems OR has take another step towards standardizing with the rest of the industry. It's great to do your own thing and differentiate yourself, but on small stuff like this, I think it's better to all be on the same page.ORSales wrote: Hi Slappy - just to be clear, all 4 of our lines are the same length before the rear line pigtails are added so it would be easy to simply fly the bar without any pigtails if your kite requires all 4 lines be equal length.
However, if I follow you're suggesting we also provide front line pigtails to allow others to use this bar with pigtails on all 4 lines for their kite? If this is the case, I can certainly get you some spare pigtails!
We struggle with the best option for the pigtails as by keeping all 4 lines the same length before pigtails on the back lines we make the line replacement very easy to do. If we were to shorten the back lines it would mean that not all line sets out there would work with our kites... I'm always open to suggestions though!
I'm a bit confused. So OR kites do not fly on equal line length?ORSales wrote:Hi Slappy - just to be clear, all 4 of our lines are the same length before the rear line pigtails are added so it would be easy to simply fly the bar without any pigtails if your kite requires all 4 lines be equal length.Slappysan wrote:I hope you guys move away from unequal line lengths via the lack of 2 pigtails that you've been doing in the past and provide 4 pigtails at even lengths for this new system John.
However, if I follow you're suggesting we also provide front line pigtails to allow others to use this bar with pigtails on all 4 lines for their kite? If this is the case, I can certainly get you some spare pigtails!
We struggle with the best option for the pigtails as by keeping all 4 lines the same length before pigtails on the back lines we make the line replacement very easy to do. If we were to shorten the back lines it would mean that not all line sets out there would work with our kites... I'm always open to suggestions though!
52cm to start! We may introduce a smaller bar too but for now have gone with one size only.Da Yoda wrote:What's the bar sizing on the new OR bar?
BWS & GIN offer their bars in 17" & 20" (44 & 52cm). Ikon's is 45cm only. Caution's is ?
I like the unification of brands using the same bar design. Also makes getting replacement parts much more versatile.
What would be a good idea is to stop making kites that fly on different line lengths... that is just dangerous in a day when everyone else kites fly on equal line lengths... sure include the pig tails for backward compatibility but step out of the past and stop perpetuating a past poor decision already. The industry standard is for kites to be sold to fly on equal line lengths.EastCC wrote:Yes they fly with different line lengths.
I believe it is for backwards compatibility, which is a good idea.
Pete- What John said was that the bars come with four equal line lengths....and that the pigtails (for rear lines) were to even the lines out after the front lines stretch, which is pretty common, yeah?Laughingman wrote:What would be a good idea is to stop making kites that fly on different line lengths... that is just dangerous in a day when everyone else kites fly on equal line lengths... sure include the pig tails for backward compatibility but step out of the past and stop perpetuating a past poor decision already. The industry standard is for kites to be sold to fly on equal line lengths.
Seriously, why continue to do this? Nostalgia?
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