You don't fly foils, it is obvious from what you've said above.grigorib wrote:The gap is closing though. LEI became lighter and have more structure to keep wing shape falling down - giving you a chance to use that speed for a downloop and back you go. You put large LEI on 40m lines and it's going to give you enough opportunity to move the kite around and fly it so it doesn't fall while a foil is going to suck in looping it and if a foil folds on you or bowties midair - that's going to suck so much more. For a regular rider those are significant factors.mikelet wrote:...Even riding the most efficient boards All LEI kites have the same low end limit ,it's an structural limit, defined by weight ,once you stop or fail a jibe the moment your board becomes inneficient ,your LEI kite will hinderburg.....
A way of widening this limit is to fly a more efficient kite , a foil kite ...But there are tradeoffs as they are specifically purpose designed products...
On a Big LEI you can change board if wind picks up a bit ,and still having fun on a Skim, TT, Surfboard,Mutant, Alaia...Etc...
So for me it's a no sense to have a race foil kite if not using It with a foilboard
Regarding Raceboards,if not a FreeRace with medium sized fins, i find them also harsh and tiring to ride....
As you said - trade offs.
grigorib wrote:40m lines
Mossy 757 wrote: ...
Can you imagine launching someone's kite from half a football field away?
Mossy 757 wrote:grigorib wrote:40m lines
Can you imagine launching someone's kite from half a football field away?
lol, wut?grigorib wrote: A football field is 60 yards which is approximately 55 meters
Nah.I fly both, have both, love both. Foils fold midair in lulls or bowtie falling down or rolling on water 9as you said)Tone wrote:You don't fly foils, it is obvious from what you've said above.
I fly both, for light wind and light to medium wind boosting, you simply cannot beat a high aspect foil kite.
Also, foil kites don't bow tie in midair, it happens from a messed up jump which ends up with the kite in the air. I have flown foils for 20 years now, 14 of them on water. Never have I had a kite bow tie for any other reason that me sticking it in the water by not flying it properly and I can count the times I have had a bow tied kite on one hand.
I said football, not soccer...Mossy 757 wrote:lol, wut?grigorib wrote: A football field is 60 yards which is approximately 55 meters
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_field
Put down the crack pipe...from your link:grigorib wrote:I said football, not soccer...Mossy 757 wrote:lol, wut?grigorib wrote: A football field is 60 yards which is approximately 55 meters
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_field
http://www.stack.com/a/the-dimensions-o ... ball-field
Total length including end zones is 120 yards. A half of that is 60...Mossy 757 wrote:Put down the crack pipe...from your link:grigorib wrote:I said football, not soccer...
http://www.stack.com/a/the-dimensions-o ... ball-field
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