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Re: 2018 - Cabrinha Kitesurfing

Postby Cab Driver » Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:15 pm

aleks wrote:
Wed Aug 02, 2017 4:33 pm
Cab Driver wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:36 pm
Thanks for your feedback, but I respectfully disagree. The wings don't need redesign. They do exactly what we want them to do. They easily get people going on their first foilboard, provide for high lift and maneuverability, and have extremely high durability. These wings also float as does the mast and the board. It allows the Double Agent to sit "tilted" in the water making it the easiest foilboard to get into the straps for a waterstart. There's no finagling with the board to tilt it before trying to get started allowing the rider to concentrate on their foiling skills. The Double Agent is meant to be a fun freeride product, not a raceboard.
Hi,
How much does the Double Agent board alone weight in both 135 and 145 sizes? I can't find this information on your website...
Thanks!
We don't publish the weights. It is not as light as a regular twin tip, although it is in twin tip construction. The board requires reinforcement and extra thickness for both the foil mount, and to increase stiffness when up on the foil. Also, there is quite a lot of EVA on the deck, inserts for both 2 strap and 3 strap setup, and inserts for both the foil and the optional 4-fin setup. This all adds extra weight over an Ace for example.

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Re: 2018 - Cabrinha Kitesurfing

Postby bragnouff » Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:52 pm

Cab Driver wrote:
Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:11 pm

The 2017 model only hit the market in February, six months ago, so it makes no sense to update after such a short time and what I would consider excellent feedback from the market.
That argument would also apply to the rest of the product which got updated. Why did it make sense then to redo the board, and not the wings?

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Re: 2018 - Cabrinha Kitesurfing

Postby Cab Driver » Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:47 am

bragnouff wrote:
Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:52 pm
Cab Driver wrote:
Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:11 pm

The 2017 model only hit the market in February, six months ago, so it makes no sense to update after such a short time and what I would consider excellent feedback from the market.
That argument would also apply to the rest of the product which got updated. Why did it make sense then to redo the board, and not the wings?
Simple. We feel we had a better design for the board, but we feel the foil and wings are rock solid and don't need change. The Double Agent is doing exactly what we want it to do: ease of use, maneuverability, accessibility, and durability. Let me know if you have any other questions! Feel free to PM me.

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Re: 2018 - Cabrinha Kitesurfing

Postby madworld » Thu Aug 03, 2017 3:19 pm

Hello Cab Driver, I have this years 2017 Cabrinha S quad in 5'9" it is a very nice fun carvy board. The one issue I have is that it needs one more forward foot insert for a person to use it with foot straps. I ride it strapless but with straps the most forward setting is still a little back from were my stance is when riding strapless. The construction quality, durability has been excellent even though my board must have been an early production because it has a Matt finish on the top deck and later ones have a gloss finish. I like the Matt finish better.

May have an insert added when I thrash it some more, and Buy another new 2018 for dedicated strapless.

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Re: 2018 - Cabrinha Kitesurfing

Postby Cab Driver » Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:08 pm

madworld wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2017 3:19 pm
Hello Cab Driver, I have this years 2017 Cabrinha S quad in 5'9" it is a very nice fun carvy board. The one issue I have is that it needs one more forward foot insert for a person to use it with foot straps. I ride it strapless but with straps the most forward setting is still a little back from were my stance is when riding strapless. The construction quality, durability has been excellent even though my board must have been an early production because it has a Matt finish on the top deck and later ones have a gloss finish. I like the Matt finish better.

May have an insert added when I thrash it some more, and Buy another new 2018 for dedicated strapless.
Awesome!! I'm glad you enjoy it! I'll be certain to pass on your feedback about a further forward insert option. Thank you.

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Re: 2018 - Cabrinha Kitesurfing

Postby skideeppow » Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:18 pm

Debating on upgrading my 9 drifter to the new drifter. Cab driver, can you let me know what the advantages are with the 2018?

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Re: 2018 - Cabrinha Kitesurfing

Postby Cab Driver » Thu Aug 03, 2017 5:43 pm

skideeppow wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:18 pm
Debating on upgrading my 9 drifter to the new drifter. Cab driver, can you let me know what the advantages are with the 2018?
The Drifter was launched in 2012 and has forever changed surfing with a kite. 2018 is the first all new Drifter since then. We have been very careful not to screw up the Drifter's special sauce while modernizing the kite. Expect the same amazing slack line drift. The big differences come in noticeably faster steering, a slightly shifted lower wind range (i.e. take slightly smaller size), super light bar feedback (designed on "A" wingtip setting for light bar feel as opposed to previous models), better upwind in the "on-shore" setting (off-shore crushes upwind), and way better freeride performance for jumping, strapless freestyle, etc. You definitely need to try one. Don't underestimate how much better the kite is for freeriding, screwing around on a skimboard, etc.

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Re: 2018 - Cabrinha Kitesurfing

Postby Bartolo » Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:31 pm

Hello Cabdriver,
do you know if they did change something to the bar pu-tube diameter so the landingline can't be stuck anymore like in the previos years models?

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Re: 2018 - Cabrinha Kitesurfing

Postby TomW » Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:39 pm

I've bought a lot of kites last 16 years. Basically, I'm 90% into the function of the kite, so early days I stayed away from high bar pressure. Then they fixed that, but the kites have been butt ugly. Either Pete has poor feeling for graphic design or his designers are bored egomaniacs and Pete has lost interest. Hard to tell.
I'm a design professional and it's possible to get it right and have colors and graphics that resonate with your customers. It's not easy, but it ain't rocket science.
In my opinion these kites graphics and colors are a step in the right direction, but too little too late.

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Re: 2018 - Cabrinha Kitesurfing

Postby Bartolo » Sun Aug 06, 2017 12:10 pm

Cab Driver wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2017 5:43 pm
skideeppow wrote:
Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:18 pm
Debating on upgrading my 9 drifter to the new drifter. Cab driver, can you let me know what the advantages are with the 2018?
The Drifter was launched in 2012 and has forever changed surfing with a kite. 2018 is the first all new Drifter since then. We have been very careful not to screw up the Drifter's special sauce while modernizing the kite. Expect the same amazing slack line drift. The big differences come in noticeably faster steering, a slightly shifted lower wind range (i.e. take slightly smaller size), super light bar feedback (designed on "A" wingtip setting for light bar feel as opposed to previous models), better upwind in the "on-shore" setting (off-shore crushes upwind), and way better freeride performance for jumping, strapless freestyle, etc. You definitely need to try one. Don't underestimate how much better the kite is for freeriding, screwing around on a skimboard, etc.
Hello Cabdriver,
do you know if they did change something to the bar pu-tube diameter so the landingline can't be stuck anymore like in the previous years models?


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