Starsky wrote: ↑
Fri May 19, 2017 2:54 pm
Have had many and still have a stock bar with a swivel. Can honestly say they aren't necessary, and I bet that many would prefer not having them once they get used to it. My foil/wave bars don't have em. I don't do a lot of rotations, but I loop the kite a ton. Do it in both directions and it kind of sorts itself. What actually takes more effort, reaching up to smack a stuck swivel, or glancing at your lines every once and a while and deciding to downloop the next transition...
You're 100% correct of course. As others have said, we don't hear the pro riders complaining about swivels either, it's a non-issue for them.
Thing is, I don't get out as much as you and definitely not anywhere near the hours a career kiter gets. I'm not in the minority here, as it's clear many of us are just so charged up to hit the waves when the rest of life's obligations line up to let us out, and we don't want to worry about twists. Here is the situation from an infrequent weekend warrior kiter with regards to your comments about equalizing downloops so it all sorts itself out;
I almost always downloop on the inside. That's where there is current, white wash and often a wave bearing down and I'm looking for an opening to get back out. I want the sustained pull to keep maneuvering and get out without giving up too much ground. When I'm on the outside, I almost never downloop. I'm looking for a wave to drop in on (in my best weekend warrior attempt) and it's tactical, I don't want any downwind pull that looping the kite can give me. Just a light transition, direction change, and boom... back on a wave. <sigh> (my blood pressure just dropped thinking about it. so fun.)
There's probably a more efficient way to deal with it and I'd love to hear it, but today, I end up with twists building up. Used to be I was counting loops so I could catch up on the outside. Now that I have a below the bar swivel I rotate by hand if/when they build up. Just wanted to see what other options are out there. This thread has brought some great discussion and perspective from folks with different gear and experiences. Good stuff! Thanks for all