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Re: Cabrinha Fireball vs slider rope.

Postby Bartolo » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:27 pm

bigwave wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 6:02 pm
Bartolo,you are very welcome. My first experience with a rope slider system was with a Dynabar. Personally, I did not like it. My experience with it was like yours. The two sliders i use currently are the Ride Engine and I use the Dakine Option Spreader bar with the Dakine C-1.
I use the Dakine Hook from the Option Bar on the RE which saves rope and Chicken Loop wear. The only negative of using a hook on the RE is it puts the Chicken Loop further away from you. With both systems, I have no issues with body position when riding upwind or carving. Both are 12'' spreader bars.

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Thanks again. That Dakine hook is interesting as well, since it may be fixed as well. When do you use each different harness? Wave vs freeride/style?

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Re: Cabrinha Fireball vs slider rope.

Postby Bartolo » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:30 pm

tegirinenashi wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:29 pm
Bartolo wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:12 pm
...I am asking if anybody has any experience with both systems. What do I gain by just another opinion not based on any experience? Useless!
You can just saw the hook off and get much better pivot system (save some $$ too):

fireball.png
Still, not as good as fully functioning slider for wavering.
Yeah, you are right, that's a possiblity too. I kind of use the same now:
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Re: Cabrinha Fireball vs slider rope.

Postby RadDrDuke » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:53 am

I've used both. For regular TT riding I still use a chickenloop. For foil/surf I now use a slider rope.

I truly don't see the value to the Fireball system, maybe someone somewhere likes it but I'm sure noone likes it as much as the Cabrinha marketing guys.

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Re: Cabrinha Fireball vs slider rope.

Postby Cab Driver » Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:43 am

Bartolo wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:12 pm
tegirinenashi wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 3:57 pm
Cab Driver wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:24 pm
So you have used Fireball extensively in comparison riding toeside, or this is just your opinion?
It doesn't matter if he used it extensively, or not -- it is a matter of simple physics/mechanics. The slider moves to the hips, and fireball doesn't. And if you are constrained in how much the connection point can be shifted/offset, no amount of cool aid is going to help.
Well it does matter to me, as I am asking if anybody has any experience with both systems. What do I gain by just another opinion not based on any experience? Useless!
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Re: Cabrinha Fireball vs slider rope.

Postby bigwave » Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:48 am

Bartolo wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:27 pm
bigwave wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 6:02 pm
Bartolo,you are very welcome. My first experience with a rope slider system was with a Dynabar. Personally, I did not like it. My experience with it was like yours. The two sliders i use currently are the Ride Engine and I use the Dakine Option Spreader bar with the Dakine C-1.
I use the Dakine Hook from the Option Bar on the RE which saves rope and Chicken Loop wear. The only negative of using a hook on the RE is it puts the Chicken Loop further away from you. With both systems, I have no issues with body position when riding upwind or carving. Both are 12'' spreader bars.

:thumb:
Thanks again. That Dakine hook is interesting as well, since it may be fixed as well. When do you use each different harness? Wave vs freeride/style?
The Dakine Option Bar works very well as a slider. It uses a strap to immobilize the hook. You have to remove the strap if you want the hook to slide. Not a 30sec job to put it back.
We sell both Ride Engine and Dakine. I use each one equally. The C-1 is slightly more comfortable than the RE but not as stiff.
One thing I will say about the Fireball, it will make any harness feel better! It couldn't believe the difference when i used it with the Dakine C-1. If Cabrinha came out with a slider Fireball I would use it for sure!

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Re: Cabrinha Fireball vs slider rope.

Postby alford » Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:39 pm

Bartolo wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:30 pm
tegirinenashi wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:29 pm
Bartolo wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:12 pm
...I am asking if anybody has any experience with both systems. What do I gain by just another opinion not based on any experience? Useless!
You can just saw the hook off and get much better pivot system (save some $$ too):

fireball.png
Still, not as good as fully functioning slider for wavering.
Yeah, you are right, that's a possiblity too. I kind of use the same now:
Why a ring in addition to the loop? Do you get more of a pivoting action?

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Re: Cabrinha Fireball vs slider rope.

Postby Bartolo » Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:55 pm

alford wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:39 pm
Bartolo wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:30 pm
tegirinenashi wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:29 pm


You can just saw the hook off and get much better pivot system (save some $$ too):

fireball.png
Still, not as good as fully functioning slider for wavering.
Yeah, you are right, that's a possiblity too. I kind of use the same now:
Why a ring in addition to the loop? Do you get more of a pivoting action?
No that's mainly because the chickenloop might get stuck when I released the quick release. So too be better safe than sorry I added the ring (actually using two rings now to protect the chickenloop, two rings give more surface)


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