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Re: Flysurfer Soul

Postby Adventure Logs » Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:47 pm

noahsw wrote:
Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:27 pm
This might be a dumb question but can you use a carabiner to self land the Soul? The backstall method usually ends up in a twisted mess for me.
Might be pulling too much steering lines which ends up having the trailing edge flip up and tumble the kite. Are you talking about attaching to a fixed object? That could work but I’d still hold on to the lines as you run up to the kite in case it tries to relaunch on its own. If that happens you can just pull one steering line kinda like pulling the safety.

What I usually do is back stall the kite and hand over hand walk up the lines till I reach the kite. In stronger winds where I can’t hold on to the lines as well, I’ll get up as much as I can then release all of them except one steering line and hold it on the ground to prevent the foil from flailing around. I’m super strong winds, I’ll just release to safety again with bar on the ground and just walk up the safety line.

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Re: Flysurfer Soul

Postby noahsw » Sun Oct 07, 2018 10:32 pm

Adventure Logs wrote:
Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:47 pm
Are you talking about attaching to a fixed object?
Exactly. I've done this with LEIs a hundred times. Attach carabiner to chicken loop. Unhook and walk up the lines with one hand on the safety line. Works like a charm with LEIs, even in super strong winds. I'm curious how the Soul would do.

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Re: Flysurfer Soul

Postby joriws » Sun Oct 07, 2018 10:50 pm

On snowkiting we attach kite to an ice screw and carabiner with back lines pulled to center like packing the bar. I also have umbrella-type sand screw with carabiner for the same purpose but not every year I use it. On I usually back stall and walk the lines and after one span flag out the kite to one steering line.

I've done landing with every foil kite I have and I had and I've tested (many Flysurfers). No problems even on moderate winds. I've ridden Soul 18 but not anchored it but there should not bve any reason why it would not work.

If kite tries to fly TE first just adjust the relative length of front and back lines. Pull little depower strap for example. It is all about line tension and front-back relative length in backstall position. TE first flying is probably symptom of too tensioned back lines when kite loses some air.

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Re: Flysurfer Soul

Postby neilhapgood » Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:39 pm

on this subject in terms of landing my 12m soul in 12knots plus wind when I backstall it is come down quite hard onto the beach, is there anyway to prevent this and if not is it better for the kite to flag it out instead and prevent the impact?

thanks

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Re: Flysurfer Soul

Postby Carlos_C » Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:48 pm

take kite down at 90 deg as when you do an assisted landing then backstall whilst moving - into wind - much softer - practice in light winds

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Re: Flysurfer Soul

Postby Janus » Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:53 pm

neilhapgood wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:39 pm
on this subject in terms of landing my 12m soul in 12knots plus wind when I backstall it is come down quite hard onto the beach, is there anyway to prevent this and if not is it better for the kite to flag it out instead and prevent the impact?

thanks
Yes it is possible to make it come down more softly, don’t fight it when you backstall it, walk downwind a bit during backstall and play with the tension on the back lines.
With a little more wind you can better backstall from the side position ( 9 or 15 o’clock)

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Re: Flysurfer Soul

Postby joriws » Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:51 pm

Reduce backline tension to slow down reversing. Also remember that if you "lift up" backlines from frontlines, the pivot point is different causing relative line length to change when kite moves.

You can more or less hover foilkite anywhere in the wind window at any LE direction with accurate backline control. Similar to 4 line stuntkite with difference that stunt kite with handless can be also flown spanwise (tip as leading edge).

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Re: Flysurfer Soul

Postby Nem0 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 4:00 pm

noahsw wrote:
Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:27 pm
This might be a dumb question but can you use a carabiner to self land the Soul? The backstall method usually ends up in a twisted mess for me.
Maybe you pull backlines too hard...
How you want to use the carabiner?

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Re: Flysurfer Soul

Postby dybliejorgen » Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:56 pm

First time on my 10m Soul this weekend. 21m race lines an Zeeko white and green foil.
Amazing foil !!! Super stable, smooth power, big wind range...
First day it was gusty 15-22 knots. No problem upwind, scary downwind, but survived.
Next day it was 7-12 knots. Blasting upwind, downwind, measured 47 km/h without trying hard.
Have not tried other foilkites and have only 50h kitefoiling.
Looking forward to try it with shorter lines and a high performance foil like Moses Comet or similar.

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Re: Flysurfer Soul

Postby Armin Harich » Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:10 pm

Great to hear, you like it.

BTW: Olli Bridge got the UK Record on SOUL. He has a lot videos at his facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/olly.bridge.1

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