I'd go with the "less is more" position. I'm not sure light weight is inherently expensive ... except in Aluula. Foiling has opened up new criteria for optimal kite characteristics - Flysurfer seems to have stumbled across this almost accidentally, with the Peak4s. Indeed, light weight by itself is...

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Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:27 pm

It's not surprising they're "cheap" - there's nothing to them! You're not getting a lot of "stuff" for your money!

yes we do. light weight . It is usually very expensive to make a light weight durable kite. it is "in the package", just not visible

can you provide more data on condition, water, wind, kite size.... thanks

Kitefoiling on ~1000cm2 foil wing I find 8m Peak equal to 12m strutless lei but slightly harder to waterstart with (180 lbs). That makes my low end ~8 kts but not much fun to ride, mowing the lawn and paying extra attention not to slacken the lines during jibes as the kite likes to roll leading edge...

I spent only short time on Peaks and for me 5m Peak4 (22m lines) replaced my beloved 8m Naish Trip strutless which was good from ~10 knots in steady ocean breeze (Pacific), 4m replaced 6m LF wave kite (I buy cheap and usually each LEI size ends up a different brand :-( ). Those two cover typical win...

15 kn should be plenty for 4m

Don’t forget the stabilizer wing. If you want to go faster make sure you have the smaller tail wing

It will depend on your weight and on how big of the board you are willing to use for kitefoiling. Just an example:
Kitefoiling board: https://equipment.robertoriccidesigns.c ... lphin-y25/
Wingfoiling

Being too lazy to search thru this thread, how is Peak4 holding up over time? Given the flutter, I wonder if fabric has tendency to wear out near the trailing edge as it does on strutless kites. Naish Trips I have do exhibit this over time despite my effort to use as small size as possible, to minim...

drsurf expressed exactly what my expectation is of the Peak4 in 8 m²! However, I´m hoping that selling my loved 10 m² Naish Boxer was not a mistake ;-) The Peak shall replace it, with 1-2 kts better low end, hopefully. One main consideration in terms of getting the 8 m² Peak was: When you´re out in...