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by Flyboy
Tue Aug 11, 2020 12:08 am
Forum: Wingsurfing
Topic: Can we all agree about slo-mo?
Replies: 5
Views: 301

Re: Can we all agree about slo-mo?

ronnie wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:59 am
Nope.

The slomo makes it easier to grasp things like the co-ordination of pumping the foil with pumping the wing.

Looks like a piece-of-cake! :wink:
by Flyboy
Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:05 pm
Forum: Kitesurfing
Topic: Does kiteboarding affect your sleep?
Replies: 29
Views: 1222

Re: Does kiteboarding affect your sleep?

I have "nightmares" when I could not kite for a certain time. In these dreams I'm at the nicest spots, wind is howling, but something keeps me from getting on the water. Most of the time I have something missing like my harness, or there is traffic to the spot, car is broken and I have to walk to t...
by Flyboy
Sat Aug 08, 2020 5:57 pm
Forum: Hydrofoil
Topic: First impression of Gong M Pro
Replies: 195
Views: 15856

Re: First impression of Gong M Pro

Azoele, The m pro definitely has different start and stall behavior than the 633. When I transferred from 633 to m pro, I couldn't get going at all first session. I would use too much rear foot pressure and shoot out of the water. I learned it wants more front foot pressure, keep the AoA lower and ...
by Flyboy
Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:04 am
Forum: Kitesurfing
Topic: Liquid force kiteboarding stops business
Replies: 75
Views: 6966

Re: Liquid force kiteboarding stops business

That is a better way to debate instead of attacking my motives/ reputation. 1) That has been a constant, not a change. 2) China manufacturing costs have increased 10-16% each year (Labour cost big contributor). An example I did: 17% increase in last 4 years inflation adjusted (7%). 2016 Full RRP 25...
by Flyboy
Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:17 pm
Forum: Kitesurfing
Topic: Liquid force kiteboarding stops business
Replies: 75
Views: 6966

Re: Liquid force kiteboarding stops business

Your opinions on my motives couldn't be more wrong. Here are some freestyle basics videos I made with 150 000 views,great sub numbers, and ridiculous hours watched statistics - I get sooo much positive feedback from helping many younger riders, as I have done in many other ways too. https://www.you...
by Flyboy
Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:12 pm
Forum: Hydrofoil
Topic: First impression of Gong M Pro
Replies: 195
Views: 15856

Re: First impression of Gong M Pro

Presumably there are some performance differences between these various stabs. My MPro setup came with the 40 cm (250cm2) stab. It rides great ... but I have nothing to compare it with. My other two foils have completely different stab designs ... they also work fine! As far as I understand it, the ...
by Flyboy
Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:02 pm
Forum: Kitesurfing
Topic: Liquid force kiteboarding stops business
Replies: 75
Views: 6966

Re: Liquid force kiteboarding stops business

Peoples ideas of expensive vary greatly! Rail on all you want about associations and cost, but know clearly that any motivated young adult with two nickels to rub together can make a fantastic go of this sport. All it takes is a little reading, saving, hunting, and time on the water. The limiting a...
by Flyboy
Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:45 pm
Forum: Kitesurfing
Topic: Liquid force kiteboarding stops business
Replies: 75
Views: 6966

Re: Liquid force kiteboarding stops business

no wonder the industry is dying Flyboy! The Best deal in 2017 was unusual - who knows what was happening behind the scenes during the period - but in general, I have bought 1 or 2 year old kites, either new or lightly used & very rarely paid more than $450 - $600/kite. Fortunately, the kite compani...
by Flyboy
Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:09 pm
Forum: Kitesurfing
Topic: Liquid force kiteboarding stops business
Replies: 75
Views: 6966

Re: Liquid force kiteboarding stops business

Have a look at the cost increase of producing products in China over that last 10 years due to wage increases. The Wholesale and Full retail pricing over the last 10 years has outpaced inflation by a big margin. Best is long Bust, Liquid Force is LIquidating, BWS gone. Even Switch Kites put their p...
by Flyboy
Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:47 am
Forum: Kitesurfing
Topic: Liquid force kiteboarding stops business
Replies: 75
Views: 6966

Re: Liquid force kiteboarding stops business

You raise a lot of interesting points longwiththecloud. Just from a pure market point of view I think most of us knew that it's unsustainable to have 100 kite brands most of them barely making money and prices that keep increasing every year with no apparent limit. Many people learn to kite when th...

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