I've owned both. The Vader is power hungry and needs more wind to plane. However on a wave, the Vader is the quickest board rail to rail that I have ever ridden. The Vader is great on good waves. The Evo is more of an all rounder and planes much earlier. The Evo is better when underpowered. The Evo ...

It appears purdyd and rolfjoosten are saying the same thing which sounds correct.

Hmmm, I fly Neo's in 12m, 9m & 6m sizes. I'm using the Duotone Click Bar with the high Y removed. As others have mentioned, I find it easier to self land in the low Y position and I didn't care for the line cleat wrapping and tangling lines when self launching. To me, the Neo performance seems equal...

Yea, wonder how the new 170/40 modular surf wings work for kite foiling?

True dat Dan!

I think they'll need Aluula v2. Difficult to see the old logo on whatever these kites are.

August in the Gorge can be very good but it depends on the temps in PDX. If it gets too hot in PDX then you may need to head to the OR Coast for wind.

When I went there in January I only needed a 7 & 9m. I used the 7m almost everyday. I weigh over 200lbs, constantly windy place.

When getting overpowered foiling, it is So nice to just click the button to depower. I don't skip a beat. If I had to deal with looking, reaching & adjusting a trim line I would likely come off foil or occasionally crash. I can't imagine foiling without the Click Bar now.

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