Thanks for the comments. I kept dreaming about trying it on kite foiling but never did. Now that I'm riding FONEs setup it is very easy to not attach the stab so I'm gonna force myself to give it a whirl winging.

I'll report back as well!

Regarding the Moses 633 - I had most of the Moses large wings (683, 633, 695, 1100, 1000, 873, 790) and would say the 633, my favorite kite foil, was terrible for winging. Super hard to go upwind, just not enough lift to be fun. Sure, I could make it work, but absolutely no fun. The bigger wings, al...

Seems like a good setup.

I have a brand new naish 135L if interested in the SF area.

If I were to have done another review of the Naish Inflatable, 135L, I would have have the exact review of performance (regarding rigidness, weight, touchdowns).

Price for Naish is a tad more, and their customer service has been epic in my opinion.

Consider a Naish as a better alternative.

Joe, I have found that the 483 stab (compared to a smaller race stab like the 421) does improve my lowest wind capabilities with a kite to start foiling. I think it has to do with the surface area that contributes (giving more counter pressure) at the begining (at very slow speed) before there is e...

Having winged on both of these mentioned foils, there is absolutely no comparison in speed. The w1000 is by far faster.

Have you already tried w1000 with s400? Found it very difficult winging with this set to get enough speed to pop on foil.. but maybe my gong lemon 5’2 is too wide which gives too much drag.. Perhaps another stab like the s330? Hmmm. For all intents and purposes I do not find the stab contributes to...

I worked thru the gammet of stabilizers for it - starting at the 483 and moving down the 450, 425, 421, 420, 330, 325 and finally ending at the completely loving the 380 which is how I rode this setup on the stringy Moses superfuse. I didn't know Moses made a S380 stabilizer? I tried Googleing it, ...

I've never fallen on a board either!

My dings or abuse is always from transportation issues!

Ok, so this is an odd question (the real question) and hoping someone may have some insight. This is not a beginner question. Essentially winging for me has progressed to me being able to fly any size wing I want when there is wind. I can fly my fone swing 2.8 or 6m or any size in between and make i...