Well i found out how to make the wind blow 25 ,for a week, in Las Vegas : buy a light wind kite ! :lol: Finally got to use the A-15,15m, last night in the park ; flew it stock in 3 to 5 mph, on 27m lines, and on the bar off my Ozone 13m Edge. I can't do up-loops on a PL Venom, in that light of wind...