Buddy of mine has a very used 2008 11m waroo that does the same thing...tacos up like a pancake and then snaps back ...freaky to have a kite do this in high winds...I'm wondering if it has anything to do with bladder twisting....we double checked the pressure and its always ~8psi...the thing ripples...

I got my hands on a cloud demo and my overall impression was that it turned extremely quickly and had HUGE low end....
Pretty impressive. Im not a jumper so I cant comment.

LF will need to get away from all plastic releases. I can see my CPRs are getting all worn down...I would suspect that eventually the tongue and groove system will fail once everything gets worn....the Slingy and North metal hinges are top notch....the cab release seems to have the best ergonomic tr...

Now you've finally clarified it. To increase throw, you increase the depower line length along with steering line lengths. While it aint rocket science, it is all rather confusing until you lay it all out and attempt it yourself. Attempting the mod on the slingy wasn't good for me because half the d...

Lengthening steering lines would only move the sweet spot but not increase the throw.
The throw is governed by the total depower line length.
Its the distance of line between the chicken and the cleat.

I have been struggling with this issue for a while now. I own several LF kites and upgraded to the CPR. I found an old North vario cleat on ebay and have attempted the above the bar mod several times but noticed how it reduces the bar throw and shortens the depower distance. I hate the below the bar...

I can see the intermediates preferring centers as you point out for unhooked, trick riding etc.
Perhaps it may be an option that should remain for beginners.
Good feedback on this issue.
Thanks

Spiraling is a good sign, it shows it is working properly. Since 2008, nothing has really changed with kites really - except for small things like below bar trim, metal hinged chicken loop releases and rear line adjustments on the wings. The disappearance of the outside (aka steering...whatever) rel...

Looks like the outside line flagging option (aka OSR) is being phased out of the market. Weren't the inside line releases once considered to have 'less' depower than the outside lines???? Why does slingshot (an obvious front runner in the market) still hold on???? Will never understand why a distres...

Didn't make a difference.

Moved to the lowest knots on the rear down lines, the highest knots on the LE and switched to a 55cm bar and wala...light bar pressure...thank god...