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by Havre
Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:20 am
Forum: Kitesurfing
Topic: Covid vaccine
Replies: 407
Views: 12288

Re: Covid vaccine

How bad was it ever in Israel?
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And how do these experts explain that most countries in Europe have already passed some early winter peak?
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In Europe "peak death" this winter seems to be week 46.
by Havre
Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:47 pm
Forum: Kitesurfing
Topic: Covid vaccine
Replies: 407
Views: 12288

Re: Covid vaccine

I had to manually count the number of deaths, so they might be one or two off, but since we started vaccinating people in Norway I have counted 41 Covid-19 deaths. That number is the registered deaths on the day of death. Excluding a bunch that was registered on the 13th of January that have died ea...
by Havre
Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:02 pm
Forum: Kitesurfing
Topic: Covid vaccine
Replies: 407
Views: 12288

Re: Covid vaccine

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-16/norway-vaccine-fatalities-among-people-75-and-older-rise-to-29?fbclid=IwAR2EPY5jdccccbDgQokOYhVAlAUfz6i3MF6lPYzO2q5ocGr56mL89ScXJUM We have now reached 29 deaths in Norway after people have gotten the vaccine. As always - does not mean that the vacc...
by Havre
Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:13 pm
Forum: Kitesurfing
Topic: Covid vaccine
Replies: 407
Views: 12288

Re: Covid vaccine

I'm not sure what you mean? We have to do something? We speak about Covid-19 as this never-ending problem, but we are not still dealing with the Spanish flu. So why is this? We speak about vaccines being the only thing that can get us out of this while life goes on fairly much as normal in many part...
by Havre
Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:49 pm
Forum: Kitesurfing
Topic: Covid vaccine
Replies: 407
Views: 12288

Re: Covid vaccine

Panic? Hugh2 is right. The Norwegian deaths are entirely explainable. Median age for deaths being above average expected lifespan in Norway. The question is am I talking about the virus or the vaccines? Just saw today. In the third largest city in Norway we got 0 Covid-19 deaths. Not the last week o...
by Havre
Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:50 pm
Forum: Kitesurfing
Topic: Covid vaccine
Replies: 407
Views: 12288

Re: Covid vaccine

There might be some rare exceptions, but only people in the highest risk groups are getting vaccinated for the moment in Norway. Basically elderly and sick people in care homes. There is no reason to believe that these numbers will hold up going forward in terms of people dying in the days after get...
by Havre
Sun Jan 17, 2021 5:14 pm
Forum: Kitesurfing
Topic: Covid vaccine
Replies: 407
Views: 12288

Re: Covid vaccine

https://www.forbes.com/sites/gracemarieturner/2020/05/22/600-physicians-say-lockdowns-are-a-mass-casualty-incident/?fbclid=IwAR3zoppJHuJpNJjOlGU4Ys-Gp_G5aVoSMjcX2y4ET_yIsWCga2oR7CFKBHk "More than 600 of the nation’s physicians sent a letter to President Trump this week calling the coronavirus shutdo...
by Havre
Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:45 am
Forum: Kitesurfing
Topic: Covid vaccine
Replies: 407
Views: 12288

Re: Covid vaccine

I think some anti-vaxers on here are paying more attention to Q Anon conspiracy theories about 5G, deep state, Trump "as a hero" and antifa as THE ENEMY than covid-19's promiscousity and clingy willingness to turn lungs into a pnumonia breeding ground and our blood vessels into sewerage systems. Mi...
by Havre
Sat Jan 16, 2021 7:15 pm
Forum: Kitesurfing
Topic: Covid vaccine
Replies: 407
Views: 12288

Re: Covid vaccine

Another thing that is unique for Corona. You are a Covid-19 case even with no symptoms based on a PCR test not fit for purpose. No one would ever dream about diagnosing something like the flu the same way. So you end up getting absurd situations like in the UK. Where there is hardly any excess death...
by Havre
Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:48 pm
Forum: Kitesurfing
Topic: Covid vaccine
Replies: 407
Views: 12288

Re: Covid vaccine

I agree with those that are saying the numbers aren’t accurate and I’m not sure they ever could be, but I do think the numbers are directionally correct with cases and deaths increasing. It reminds me of World War 2 death estimates that range from 50 to 75 million and we will never know the exact n...

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