perfect diprince69, you explane better than me
but to me turning radius seems a little wider

length of lines don't change the way a kite turn, tight or not
cloud has 4 points for bridles on the leading edge, i shortened only the center one
i think this has changed the arch of the kite

I have it from march, overall a great low wind kite
what i didn't like is tendency to turn too much to itself
i shortened the center bridle 3 cm and it's ok seems more stable, turn less tight and flies more forward
i think better low-end
still to test hi-end

first relaunch, deep water 9-11 knots
pull ,not too much, one backline and my cloud 17 in two second is flying again, wow

i'm very happy with my 17 cloud, had 6 session
lot of power easy go upwind
don't know about relaunch it never touch water

ciao, ho appena ricevuto il cloud 17 e come prima impressione, mi sembra fantastico
agile potente e con una bolina esagerata
io peso 85 kg (+muta invernale ) e anche nei buchi a 7/8 nodi continuavo ad andare bene
usavo il dyno 16 2011 e il cloud mi sembra decisamente più performante nel vento leggero

first time with cloud 17, not ideal condition, side off very gusty like 7-17 i can compare with my old 16 dyno 2011 cloud turn tight and much faster, no need to build speed for power, pull the bar and go even in the lulls it has more power, high end think is better for dyno i use 52cm bar 24 m but i...

when is cold like -8°c, 30 knots, i use ion 6/5 hooded 5mm boots and 5mm gloves
for me only problem are the hands
usually i massage hands and feet with a cream with "capsicina"

hi Dimitri i think your V3 fly very well in those 40 knots!!!
even if at kite level are maybe 60 knots...

dyno 16 2011 has much more power than dyno 15 2012, like 17 2012.
dyno 2012 is faster