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flying without middle strut

Postby nir_ » Tue Apr 06, 2004 1:24 pm

yesterday, while pumping my r2 12
i found out that my middle strut is leaking
as i didnt want to waste such a beautiful day (19-20k)
i tried a test flight without the middle strut pumped out

i couldn't see (better say - feel) any real flight characteristics differences
and went out for two hours - forgetting my center strut is empty...

just wanted to share - if someone encounters similiar situation....

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Postby kitefrog » Tue Apr 06, 2004 1:36 pm

I guess the canopy there just lacks some tension and produces slightly less lift in the nose. Can't see why it would be unsafe? Maybe a relaunch would have been more difficult? D.

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Postby cglazier » Tue Apr 06, 2004 1:59 pm

I had the valve on a strut next to the middle pop open. The kite actually still flew OK until the wind picked up. Then it began doing wild jellyfish like contractions. It reminded me of a giant beating heart.

Anyway I think the strut pressure is most important in high wind. In light wind you can get away with soft bladders.

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Postby Royce » Tue Apr 06, 2004 3:47 pm

Dude
That middle strut on some kites is important on others not. Depends on the design but generally it doesnt make much diference at all. I know a couple of guuys that prefer tonot inflate that bladder at all and some kites RRD Z 20 dont even have that bladder. Just keep it symetrical.

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without central bladder

Postby KRIS » Tue Apr 06, 2004 11:01 pm

I remember my friend Dariusz (from Nobile Boards) riding happily his 20 mts North IV on Cauipe (Fortaleza) with the central bladder empty and it wasn´t any apparent problem, actually he was riding on 18 kts.

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Postby Westkite » Wed Apr 07, 2004 12:07 am

I've done it quite a bit. Had a leaky middle strut bladder on my 20. Never noticed any real problems, but sometimes I had a nagging feeling that was going downwind more. Anyone felt that?


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Postby Trant » Wed Apr 07, 2004 12:51 am

I never pump up my middle strut 'cos I don't have one :lol:

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Postby Shayla » Wed Apr 07, 2004 10:55 pm

There's this Australian kite manufacturer called Monkey Kites. Their kites are designed without the middle strut.

If you're interested check out the website at http://www.monkeykites.com

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Postby Ron » Thu Apr 08, 2004 12:22 am

i had one of the struts licking on my 2002 AB 11.8, not the middle one but just one beside it to the right.
I had this for about a year ( i was lazy fixing it..), so i got to "test" it in any wind condition from 10-to 22 knots.
NO Problems at all.
It just looked "flufy" when put on the sand after a session, but in the air- nothing feels different.

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Postby Shayla » Thu Apr 08, 2004 3:24 am

Trant
Just got your image up on the screen. Didn't get it before. There's not much on the forum about monkey kites, would love to hear more about how your kite behaves.


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