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Postby tomatkins » Tue Oct 18, 2005 3:47 pm

My first thought is that a full lycra suit and a pair of booties would have prevented all this. My second thought is that maybe the bootie top with the velcrox would have snagged the line at the ankle level and made the line cut in a worse place. The ocean is dangerous place.....Needlefish in Baja, Tubework casings, Urchins, Stingrays, Jellyfish, Seasnakes, Lionfish, Stonefish, Red tide........

I will stick with the opinion that a full suit of some kind is good for at least 2 reasons:

(1) minimizes risk of jellyfish stings

(2) prevents sun damage to skin

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Postby TheRussian » Tue Oct 18, 2005 4:11 pm

Saturday we had 20 degrees, 6-8ft faces and powered 12m weather.... no prolonged/nasty death jelly fish, sharks with frikken lazer beams, hiv needle fish and rabid mo-fo groin sucking bee-hatches (well they do in Essex).

come and kite in the UK.... we have nothing to worry about, apart from the odd kiter bent on suicide/wanting to take as many others with them as possible :D

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Postby ryansurf1 » Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:04 pm

How coincidental....I was going to ask RickI and all if anybody has lost a finger....but i guess a toe will do.

I had an equipment failure last weekend in moderate swell with side on wind. I wrapped up some of my line on the bar and was running out of time before i got closer to the inside, beach. So i swam up to my kite and grabbed it. When i got to the inside break the flagged kite was ripped from my grip and my fingers got immediatly wrapped up. Yanked hard. I had visions of the kite getting yanked again by the waves and pulling a finger(s) off. I was able to get untangled and back to the kite.

I use Q-line and my cuts were very minor, but still alarming.

So add another inherent danger (evidenced) to kiting....loss of toes and fingers...atleast there are 10 of each.

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Postby RickI » Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:21 pm

ryansurf1 wrote:How coincidental....I was going to ask RickI and all if anybody has lost a finger....
Probably quite a few fingers worldwide over the years.

The first one that I heard about appears at:
in the KSI at: http://fksa.org/index.php?c=22
in the 2000 volume, account #2

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Postby randykato » Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:52 pm

A friend of mine lost a pinkie a few years ago. He's around 70 years old and one of the most hardcore kiters around. He was relaunching and the lines took most of it right off.

I was way upwind and I saw his kite down and then saw him packing up. Then I saw an ambulance in the parking lot about 10-15 minutes later. The guys waved me in and told me what happened.

He was back on the water in a couple weeks.

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Postby theflyingtinman » Tue Oct 18, 2005 6:26 pm

tomatkins wrote:.......

I will stick with the opinion that a full suit of some kind is good for at least 2 reasons:

(1) minimizes risk of jellyfish stings

(2) prevents sun damage to skin
3 reasons: It also provides a little protection against "road rash" if
you get hauled over the reefs. (except in those really bad reef-haulings
when it just gets messy with all that shredded neoprene embedded in
the sausage-meat ;) )

I can certainly vouch for #1. Back in the early eighties on my first
ever windsurfing day in the ocean at The Strand (South Africa) I got
caught out at the back in a sudden and very big wind shift and found
myself being blown across False Bay in swell so big I couldn't get up
on the board. I was using an old wettie jacket with no zipper and I got
stung by dozens of blue-bottles. I was over a kilometer offshore before
my buddy realized I was missing and drove his Toyota Hi-ace down
onto the beach so he could stand on top of it and try to find me. By
pure luck he happened to have the binocs pointed my way during one
of my increasingly futile and infrequent attempts to haul up the sail. (I was
invisible in the swell the rest of the time) He sailed out to resuce me but
it was after dark before we got back and when we hit shore we were
inside a highly restricted area about a mile or so from our launch.
I was so deep in shock from the stingings that I couldn't even stand
up. My buddy had to ride out of the area, swim back in around the
high fence that cut it off from the rest of the beach and tow me back,
lying flat on my board.

Those blue-bottles suck big time, but so do buddies who teach you
to ride a port tack in a farm pond on the day you get your first board
then take you to the ocean the next day, give you half a busted wettie
and assure you that you'll be okay in the light, cross-onshore winds. :(

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Postby tautologies » Tue Oct 18, 2005 7:45 pm

...I guess we all have had close calls. I had the lines tangle around my hand while I as I was relaunching...lucky for me the lines were also tangled around my spreader bar (it effectlively locked my hand to the spreader bar) before the kite crashed again. I ended up pretty nice cuts over my hand.
It is really hard to stay away from the lines in the surf, since there are forces working in different directions.

In hawaii the jellyfish comes around I think 2 weeks after fullmoon. I think the worst sting I have ever gotten was when I got one under my boardshorts while riding.

Alex

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Postby stakas » Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:41 pm

Best wishes to your friend. I am a doc and I know that to loose a toe you need some real big forces. From the x-ray it is clear that only the tip of the 5th toe was hurt. It is still a very painful thing but most of the toe is still there..... buy the way the 5th toe is just an evolutionary vestige it has no function.... except getting tangled in a kite line.
I wish speedy recovery!

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Postby Toby » Tue Oct 18, 2005 9:12 pm

loosing a finger is way more a bad thing. If I can choose, hell yes, take my toe instead of my finger!!!!

Greets
Toby

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Postby func » Tue Oct 18, 2005 9:35 pm

tautologies wrote:
In hawaii the jellyfish comes around I think 2 weeks after fullmoon. I think the worst sting I have ever gotten was when I got one under my boardshorts while riding.

Alex
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