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been riding the 17 contra for 2 weeks now. 4 4hour sessions, couple 2-3 hour sessions.
from 11mph to mid 20's mph.
slow=yes (what isn't in light winds, with a big kite, moving a big guy)
pulls=yes
boosts= i have a video, yes

been kiting 5 years, ridden many kites , own 8 kites and 5 boards. Want my opinion on this kite feel free to email me.
otherwise I have no desire to step into the ring

)*( wrote:Personal attacks will see you banned.

My posts are about the kites, and cutting through the b/s as it arises, that I might know I've the factual info and not a (padded) dream world type review.

The record of this thread exists I suggest you read it.

Your record also exists, Rockstar, please be careful, I do not wish to see you banned, but I cannot stop you from acting out.

Think it over, It's a kite user's forum not

kitebrandpimpingforum

Thanks for your future consideration

)*(

We trust Toby to keep this place civil and pimp free

We all make mistakes, some are worse than others, one could make a $2000.00 dollar mistake at today's kite prices.

Reviews are important, they require our scrutiny.

Being "emo" and lashing out is really not that rare; more or less common, not topical; not really of any import whatsoever, just sort of tedious...

Dull

Maybe, try to be more important Rockstar, not such an emo, not just sorry all the time...

Rockstar wrote:

Sorry,did not check it properly !

Got a bit mixed up.

Just think it over, is all I ask.

Thanks

So,I would read this as a personal attack from you at Phillipp

"This turning speed review by Phillipp, MakeHimDance, Xes Laro. Hotpoket, pimpomatic--whatever the f*** this poly-moph is calling himself today, is pretty much b/s too then? "

??????????
Poly-morph? WTF??

Like I said,you are the main polymorpher !

Hey Phillipp,
This 17 m story is starting to lose a bit of puff, I'm eager to know when you're going to do your next kite review, how about the new Slingy Link?
You could meet somewhere and team up with Focommas (*) and do a joint review, even bring your new 17 for his impression of the turning speed, you could also get some nice pics to post here!

Well,

Maybe we should give Phillipp a break?

Like he said, "his only mistake was not saying his review was based on hear-say."

He sure is stoked, and that's what really matters, eh?

The fact that he has never flown the kite (16 x-bow with mod) he claims the 17 Contra just blows away, is only a minor issue; one a simple footnote whould have solved, so let's give him a break.


Personally I've heard enough bull shit from this girlyman.

Rockstar, Phillipp's penchant for duplicity is a matter of record.

Plillipp by his own addmision claims the usernames:

Xes Laro, (phony board review in hopes of a deal: see Flamer's)

MakeHimDance (phony kite sighting stories/ general braggard, gossip dude)

Foolkitten (phony story teller, general bad blood guy TSS tss tss)

dot fokiten (phony story teller, thief, bad blood generator, gossip guy)

These are just a handfull of the phony accounts.

This is not mear speculation, this is a matter of record.

Check your facts.

Give Phillipp a break, he just forgets to say his posts are b/s.

(suggestion: add your own footnote, wink !)

Go figure? no biggy, fixed !

carry-on
)*(

Ps. Big kites turn slower, ( they are the slow turtles ) that's just how it is.

taking about several usernames, fo!

Toby wrote:taking about several usernames, fo!

Regards Toby,

Yeah, why not? It's no secret want some links?

Hey,, it is what it is. I didn't make him do it.

Let's keep it real, I cannot hide my posting style anyway, a rose by any other name...

So why not just reactivate fokiten....??

I sign my posts that way anyway...

This name is over two years old, check the post record no deletions, nothing shady,, just kite surf related comments.

I don't need fake identities, I'm the same sincere poster no matter what I'm forced to call myself...

It's up to you of course...

Regards
fokiten

calamitysane wrote:

Toby wrote:taking about several usernames, fo!

Regards Toby,

Yeah, why not? It's no secret want some links?

Hey,, it is what it is. I didn't make him do it.

Let's keep it real, I cannot hide my posting style anyway, a rose by any other name...

So why not just reactivate fokiten....??

Because you are an abusive troll?

I sign my posts that way anyway...

This name is over two years old, check the post record no deletions, nothing shady,, just kite surf related comments.

I don't need fake identities, I'm the same sincere poster no matter what I'm forced to call myself...

It's up to you of course...

Regards
fokiten

If you don't need fake identities, then stop using them, keep it real stop bullshitting.
No deletions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Toby has plenty of your posts, deleted by him and you, keep it real stop bullshitting, get some counselling dude!
Nothing shady, hmmmm, what about fake ID's????
Keep it real, stop bullshitting.

LOL's

And I'll wait for the flying pigs.

You get what you give whiner.

kitepower wrote: If you don't need fake identities, then stop using them, keep it real stop bullshitting.
No deletions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Toby has plenty of your posts, deleted by him and you, keep it real stop bullshitting, get some counselling dude!
Nothing shady, hmmmm, what about fake ID's????
Keep it real, stop bullshitting.

LOL's

And I'll wait for the flying pigs.

You get what you give whiner.

Calm down Stevey. You'll have a heart attack dancing to fokkitens's tune.
Fo, look what you have done to poor Stevey. Give him a break.