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North Rebel Reviews??

Postby poor relative » Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:22 am

Anybody know of any??
Anybody able to give a balanced review of this kite, particulary the 12.
Cheers

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Postby Sean-CA » Wed Jul 26, 2006 1:36 pm

Hi,

I had a ride on a 12 Rebel, here is a short list of first impressions. My personal opinions only.

Pros:

Well built (as usual)

Good lift

Good hangtime

Turns fast

Depowers well

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Cons:

A little bit unstable in the air, the bar moves in your hands slightly.

Heavy to turn, medium bar pressure for sheeting but stiff to turn allthough the kite turns fast.

Trim loop to small for unhooked stuff (but that is easy changed)

Strange flimsy new lines (probably good, but I not like them)


Thanx,

Sean

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Postby The Ranger » Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:08 am

and no singe inflatation :-? that sucks...

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Postby poor relative » Thu Aug 03, 2006 3:26 am

So does the rebel have the depower of a bow, or does it just have depower of a vegas?

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Postby dazza5172 » Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:35 am

I disagree with concern over lack of single inflation Ranger, JMO, however I think that the strut inflation is much better if you can increase the pressure in them directly rather than through the le. Some suggest that the new designs take this into account, I disagree personally (based on very little I admit).

The bottom line here is bar pressure, Dwight says light pressure, Sean says different, to me the Rebel looks like it rocks, however, what is the bar pressure, thats the question.

Daz :?:

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Postby PAFF » Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:48 am

I dont get it....

Why cant they make a onepump system, that works??

SS-Naish can... Then they can...

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Postby aahi » Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:08 am

I dont get it....

Why cant they make a onepump system, that works??

SS-Naish can... Then they can...
One-pump is not for everyone... There are trade-offs with everything in our sport, and although one pump may save you time you'll never have the most efficient kite because of it... Fact: Small tubes require higher pressure than larger ones for the same rigidity... so if you want very small low drag struts (more efficient), you'll have to inflate them to alot higher pressure than the leading edge to get a solid airframe. If you really want to get into the details, you should technically have to pump up each strut a different pressure according to it's diameter to get the most rigid frame. One pump is not hard for companies to integrate, I think they choose not to for the best performance possible(low drag, and lighter kite). I think one pumps are getting better because the leading edges aren't that much bigger than the struts anymore. I think a good compromise is a 2 pump system...

And I think naish has the best system... what is the point of having a one pump like ss if you have to clip off the tubes after inflating? naish is literally pump and go...
The bottom line here is bar pressure, Dwight says light pressure, Sean says different, to me the Rebel looks like it rocks, however, what is the bar pressure, thats the question.
Dwight said you can choose your bar pressure with the tabs on the wingtips... one for c-kite feel (harder), and one for bow feel (light bar pressure)

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Postby aahi » Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:54 am

btw...

dwight, what happens when you let the bar go on the rebel (hooked in/5th not engaged)?

does it drift to the side of the window and await to be relauched (a la Ion and Answer)?

or does it fall out of the sky (like nova and crossbow)?

or does it do something else?

how are the new lines holding up on the 07 bar?

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Postby panchito » Thu Aug 03, 2006 9:35 am

poor relative wrote:So does the rebel have the depower of a bow, or does it just have depower of a vegas?
Been reading on the Spanish forum about tests on the Rebel .... it has 2 connection points:

1) for C kite feeling and unhooked moves ( turns fast like hell )

2) for Bow kite feeling with better de-power ( turns slower like a bow )

You have to test both ways to make a true statement how this kite handles and also to find what best suits your riding style.

Saludos


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