Question for Dereck and Hein - Board design

[hein]

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[tomtom]

thank you very much hein and dereck

I really apreciate your comment im im honered to give answer from you.

I will think about it

Thin fin work for sure - i use it - Epoxy slots polycarbonate bones and fins.
Sorry for borrow your ideas but they are sooooo good - thanks
i will never look back at those ordinary "anchor" fins

I even have my own skim but i dont have any surfing or strapless /read skateboard/ background - so i give it up
But i give it another chance - maybe i start with straps for start.

But something like surfing twintip - is always like worm back in my head
When i figured out some resonable rocker line i give it a shot

[tomtom]

One more note

No other thing make me more happy than riding board from one of you.
But im from east europe and its too complicated for both shiping and cost reason. /100$ isnt same value around globe/

So i dont ride your boards but your ideas instead.

Thanks!

[dfudgeman]

A couple of guys here in OK use the Flywood...no BS...it is an awesome lightwind board! You can get upwind in nothing, and can still do tricks and jumps....genius design.

Buy it! you'll love it!

Dave[/quote]

[Wetstuff]

tomtom: Another alternative is to take something like this pop-out type board and add Hein’s foot strap modification to it.




This one is a simply designed, 5-6, thruster that was used as a rental board for a local surf shop. Rather than drill holes and break the shell; Hein’s modification uses a very grippy self-adhesive. I’ve since added more decking tread between the foot straps and in front of the front strap because it needs to be trimmed nose-down in light air and it is fun to ride both in and out of the straps. I’m sure these Hein straps would work on any surfboard or chunk of church door for that matter.

ji m

[hein]

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[tomtom]

Here is my recent boards just drawings - not actual pictures - but im sure drawing are more interested you than actual pictures

Not from cad software - im dtp man no engineer so i use my vector drawing software.

There is one medium - high wind and one light wind board.

Notes

I use flat bottom. Concave add to many variables to evalute impact to actual design. In have limited r&d oportunities and i focus just on outline - rocker and flex.
I dont say concave is bad - i just try to make board to my likes with just changing only 3 variables.

Construction both board
bottom 3 mm poplar wood
top /pink part/ 10mm klegecel 80 /doom shaped tapered to tail/
laminated by glass epoxy

Small board is Hein rocker - and thin fins with modified f-one sk8 outline
Rail are "inverted" basically surf board rail upside down
I experimented with concave /snowboard/ outline before - and yes it works
U can carve like no other no more skipping.
I can imagine that hein bottom make same thing but i can work just with outline so i find my way.
This board is almost - unimprovable for its purpose. Just minor tweeking - fins closer to center of board - outline tiny bit straighter on tips and tiny bit less concavity on outline.

Fins are 4cm on heel and 3cm on toe - I like this setup


Bigger board
Outline spleene session - thin fins. Rocker hein scaled down to less than 2cm.
Fins are 3cm both side. Contrary to board producer i believe and feel that bigger board need smaller fins /longer straighter rail stabilise and track itself/

This board ride well also - and allow me to ride 2 sizes smaller kite than other which i love because for me its boardriding sport no "kite pulling me around" sport

BUT
Its back foot heavy and bounce in chop. And back foot heavy - is problem for good boardriding sensation

So it require major changes to desire what i want - and its very hard without loosing its low end qualities

One thing is for sure - it will have concave outline - I did not find other way to make drive in turn so good.

Sorry for long post

[tomtom]

tomtom: Another alternative is to take something like this pop-out type board and add Hein’s foot strap modification to it.




This one is a simply designed, 5-6, thruster that was used as a rental board for a local surf shop. Rather than drill holes and break the shell; Hein’s modification uses a very grippy self-adhesive. I’ve since added more decking tread between the foot straps and in front of the front strap because it needs to be trimmed nose-down in light air and it is fun to ride both in and out of the straps. I’m sure these Hein straps would work on any surfboard or chunk of church door for that matter.

ji m

Thanks for tip

I was actualy looking for twintip but im starting changing my mind


At start im making some deck pad on my old skim and give it a try
straped and unstraped