THX for your comments about my site! I'm really happy to hear that! I'm hoping to see more good post there!
I agree about added weight & other things that you've mentioned...
Even LE battens have their purpose on the kite. They do prevent LE profile "collapsing" too soon (so called stability) at low AoAs and also in some other occasions, for instance in lower wind conditions for the kite, when you fast sine the kite, LE profile can "collapse" for a little when you do a fast "up turn", if you know of what I mean. Battens do help to prevent that as I've experienced on my LF7m kite.
I'm still not sure if it's the combination of not so perfect profile use and/or designed AoA problem...
I'm about to open a topic about that on kite-stuff.org for further discussion... It would be great to hear any good comments!
I'm using the scalloping a little, but it actually does not help much. Maybe a big scallop would help, but it looks ugly for me so I'm not using it...
;) And I'm somehow convinced that in many cases, the TE flutter is because of LE profile distortions (gusts, etc...)...
Probably surpluses of battens are better than minuses, so that they find their space on your kites!
M2C
munteruk wrote:
Gigi:
Firstup - full credit for running an excellent kite design website. I like how kite-stuff focusses on kite design without hype from people pushing product. I think some of the ideas there are leading edge.
I wasn't really clear in my first post. I'm most skeptical about battens on the leading edge. Manufacturers claim improved "stability" but it seems too many other variables are changed from year to year to really assess this claim.
As for reducing flutter on the TE, this can be achieved through the scalloping the TE and while this sacrifices a small amount of area it does so without adding weight. I'm still not convinced that the added area maintained through the use of battens sufficiently offets the penalty from the added weight. Have you tried scalloping on your designs?
In addition, battens add to the manufacturing time & complexity as well as making kites a little harder to pack and store. I hope designers can come up with designs that don't need them to fly well. There are already examples out there...