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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:11 pm
by Windguy
where can these be purchased?

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 3:10 am
by dakitemon
Dwight wrote:
dakitemon wrote:I had a pair of the peel and stick inserts. The lasted 3 sessions before
they came unglued. What a waste of money. I ended up throwing them in the trash

ERic
Did you clean the board with alcohol before installing them?

Yes, I preped the board carefully by first scuff sanding it then wiping it several times with alcohol and they still failed

Eric

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 5:07 am
by aeberl
Don't sand the surfece, thats the mistake. Check out #M's website for the specs of the adhesive, it even sticks on polishe metal surfaces with light oil residue.

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:40 am
by schmoe
Sorry hein, I hate stick on pads.

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 10:18 pm
by dakitemon
aeberl wrote:Don't sand the surfece, thats the mistake. Check out #M's website for the specs of the adhesive, it even sticks on polishe metal surfaces with light oil residue.

They did not fail becouse I scuff sanded the board first. They failed becouse they are held on with 3m double sided tape that is not up to the job. If you don't believe me buy a pair and see for your self

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:11 pm
by hein
Dakitemon,

I think you used these:

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They are intended to go under a pad and probably don't have enough
holding power for heavy duty use by themselves. Especially if you put a
lot of leverage on your straps. I do make bigger ones with 4 inserts and
about double the VHB surface area. PM me and I'll send you a set.

The VHB area on the Surf-N-Skim pads and these new twin tip plates is
about 5 times larger and goes completely under your foot and they are
covered by the pad as well. We are going to offer a version of the
Surf-N-Skim pad with a plastic plate in bedded in the pad and under your
heel to help protect the board.

Inserts in the board and adjustable (non peel & stick) plates are great.
NSI has my full plates and sandwich plates for those applications. And we
are planning to release more versions that will fit the non standard insert
spacing that production boards are using. But if your board doesn't have
inserts, they're stripped or not in the right place; then my VHB mounted
products offer a solution.

If you call NSI you can specify a variety of different foam layups to get the
desired cushy-ness. The layup (with the white foam) shown in my initial post
uses a new material that is very cushy. Those plates are working great to
absorb the high frequency shock from that 4.5lb carbon board they're on.
It smooths out the ride and lets you load up and store a great deal of energy
in the flex. And eliminates the jarring on the hard fast landings.

Flexy, fast rebound full carbon boards offer immense pop but you need the
right pads to make the ride enjoyable.

-Hein