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Single Fin Surboards?

Postby surfinsmiley » Sat Nov 24, 2007 6:17 am

Anyone had experience using single fins with a kite?

I`m considering a new custom and I`m really considering going single!

WHY? Well, I bought a new Geoff McCoy, Single finned Semi-Gun, 7'5". Built for 2 or 3 times overhead to as big as I can paddle into. It has really opened my eyes into the world of single finned speed projection and stability.
Tube riding has taken on a whole new dimension on this board!



SO........ Is there any good reason why singles would not work kiting?

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Re: Single Fin Surboards?

Postby tautologies » Sat Nov 24, 2007 6:31 am

surfinsmiley wrote:Anyone had experience using single fins with a kite?

I`m considering a new custom and I`m really considering going single!

WHY? Well, I bought a new Geoff McCoy, Single finned Semi-Gun, 7'5". Built for 2 or 3 times overhead to as big as I can paddle into. It has really opened my eyes into the world of single finned speed projection and stability.
Tube riding has taken on a whole new dimension on this board!



SO........ Is there any good reason why singles would not work kiting?
NICE!!! MY longboard are singlefins...I really like the loose feel of the board..I think...and considering you ride barrels..and I am not even close...my opinion probably doesn't really weight in very much here...but I think for kiting you need a little more fin realestate to hold your edge, to hold from going too much where the kite wants to go..I guess it would be easier to slide out form the top of the waves, but although I have not tried it, I would assume it would be better to just go with a twin fin, since the center fins often are almost out of the water..unless you really just want to surf the wave...which would make it slightly differnet since the kite then is jsut a tool to tow you into the wave...in that case it would probably work..maybe on a bigger board?

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Postby surfinsmiley » Sat Nov 24, 2007 7:01 am

:thumb: Good points.

The only reason that I`m steering away from multi-finned set-ups is that by their very nature the fins need to be "offset" and "towed in" towards the nose in order to turn..... That means the fins are creating lots of drag when going in a straight line, which I/we do a lot of the time with a kite.

"Hold" on the water is the one thing I`m most concerned about. Obviously more surface area will create more hold on the water but I`m super surprised at the amount of hold my gun has when drawing high lines.
I think it might be to do with the "offset" and "tow" of multi-fined boards, the outside fin wants to draw a different line than the rail wants to draw... those opposing forces are not present in the single fin design.

All just IMHO....

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Postby Nico » Sat Nov 24, 2007 2:00 pm

Did a bit of riding with big singles (small windsurf wave boards) and did not notice any adverse effect from the single fin.
In fact they felt pretty smooth without that outer fin drag.
Always wanted a rhino chaser for drawing long lines when kiting, but these don't come around lots here.
Please let us know how you proceed and your findings.
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Postby surfinsmiley » Sun Nov 25, 2007 3:17 am

The Ol` "Rhino chaser!"- Haven`t heard that term in ages....classic!

I tried it with a kite a couple of times but it`s to big to really get a true feel for what a shorter single might have to offer....

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Postby Ian-H » Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:51 pm

When you turn hard using a kite with no outer fin the board gets as slippery as glass. Outer fins critical in kiting! Wouldn't recommend it...

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Postby blowhard » Sun Nov 25, 2007 5:32 pm

The key to the single fin is that there is a pintail to go with it
The fin will only hold as long as the surface does not span a distance that is too great from side to side

So singles are fine as long as the edge connects before the fin gives way.
Singles are fast , the single fin does not create the drag the others have ,but you have to use the edge of the board to compensate for lack of side fins
My single Transverse Assymectrical Twin Tip is shaped like a surfboard in profile with sharp rails to hold through the turns
I use the front as a conventional Twin Tip with two 1 1/2 " kite fins
and ride the front out

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Postby surfinsmiley » Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:50 am

So no-one actually has a single fin surfboard that they use with a kite? :(

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Postby Ian-H » Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:19 am

Angus (Goose), a local shaper of top-quality sandwich-construction boards regularly rides a mini-mal and other big boards with a kite, and they're all single fin. Have a chat to him... http://www.capedr.co.za/

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Postby blowhard » Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:20 pm

I ride a single every time I go out .

OCEAN RODEO sells them too


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