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Postby Megabear » Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:12 am

I´ve been noticing for some time now, that the webmaster here (toby) has a tendency to remove all the "not so great post" about companies to flamers paradise .....nobody looks in flamers paradise so thats just Censorship

Seriously TOBY what up with that`?

Now you decide whats cool or not ?

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Postby bigmark100 » Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:23 am

unfortunately some posts simply do have to be deleted because there are some dicks out there.... and they need to be silenced.

I think toby does a pretty good job.

someones gotta do it, or this forum would just become full of

how would you suggest this is managed?

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Postby » Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:23 am

We talk so much crap already and without Toby censoring, we would be swamped with enough bull to power a big city.

Also, he has a place for "flamers" on KC

We all have dissed companies, gave props to others,..some wrong.. some right,
thanx to Toby it does not get out of hand.

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Re: censorship on kiteforum

Postby theflyingtinman » Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:33 am

Without exception, the only forums on the web that I visit frequently are
moderated (firmly, but not necessarily obviously). I have rarely found an
unmoderated forum that is worth the effort of clicking a mouse button to

Props to Toby for doing such a good job on his own here.. all the other good,
large forums seem to have teams of moderators.

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Postby leviedelvento » Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:17 am

bigmark100 wrote: I think toby does a pretty good job.

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Postby Toby » Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:58 am

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Postby sburlo » Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:02 pm

leviedelvento wrote:
bigmark100 wrote: I think toby does a pretty good job.
Agreed :thumb:

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Postby BigR » Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:08 pm

if anything this forum needs more moderation, Toby rocks!

Skyway Scott needs to get some sleep.

And case closed..........
Here's some interesting info on trademark utilization:

Very interesting:

From the Trademark FAQ:


4. How do I use trademarks grammatically?

A trademark or service mark is always an adjective - never a noun or a verb
- and always begins with a capital letter. Trademarks are proper adjectives, since
they identify the specific source of the trademarked products or services. In the
following example, Tru-Flite is properly used when it acts as an adjective
modifying the noun arrows and is improperly used when it acts as a noun:

Proper: Tru-Flite arrows always hit the target.
Improper: Tru-Flite always hits the target.

5 Are all these distinctions really necessary?

While these distinctions may sound like insignificant details, consider the plight
of Otis Elevator Company. Years ago, that company produced an advertisement with a
similar error in the copy, certainly a detail nobody deemed momentous at the time.
However, that one sentence in that one ad helped Otis lose its trademark:
Escalator. So now any manufacturer of moving staircases can call their products
escalators. You'll want to avoid making this costly mistake with your trademarks,
so if in doubt, err on the side of over-protection.

From the Real Lesson page: ("Water Time" is used as a noun clause in all
these cases:)

Water Time is for students who have successfully completed
our Ground Control class or equivalent.


All Water Time is accompanied by a coach on a PWC to allow coaching...


Do you need more Water Time?

("Ground Control" is used as a noun clause)

Ground Control is our most fundamental building block ...

Looks like the defendants shouldn't need a very expensive lawyer to get out of this one

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Postby MissionMan » Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:46 pm

They may be able to claim ground control in the context of kitesurfing, but water time is something people have been using years before I even knew Real existed.

Sorry, if they are suing people for using "water time" then I am sorry to say I won't be buying anything more from them and I have bought from them in the past. Just because you may be the first to put it in your manual, doesn't mean you invented the term.

Sorry, Real, you lost my respect.

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Postby avelos0001 » Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:49 pm

Toby does a good job sorry this made it harder

people need to know about reel and decide for themselves

respeckt has huge value, tobys got it

reel burned theres grabbing for others mony

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