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Postby Toby » Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:34 pm

morewind: the forum would already be dead without someone taking care of it. Seen one too!

But sure, everyone of you who is posting keeps the forum going and keep it interesting. So big :thumb: to all the users who help others with their replies!

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Postby spork » Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:22 pm

morewind wrote:This forum can dye in a blink of the eye
Interesting. What color would it be then?
Forum belongs to somebody, but messages is our property, if You delete it You destroy our property.


I don't think your messages posted on Toby's forum are your property. I guess you'd have to look at international law and the user agreement to sort that out.

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Postby BWD » Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:56 pm

Toby does a great job with the forum.
Moving threads or locking or deleting them is his business.
Moving threads is not censorship.
Just the admin's way of saying, "I don't want my whole site taken over by a bitchfest that is irrelevant to 90% of my users."
Deleting threads maybe is censorship, but it is up to the owner to have some control of content. So nobody likes deleting threads, duh.
No more to say on this, I would rather read the post about flatulence.

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Postby Tom183 » Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:57 pm

spork wrote:
Tom183 wrote:OT: you know what to call a thousand lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?
A good start.
Yep! I'm guessing you also know the difference between a lawyer and a flounder? :wink:

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Postby spork » Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:24 pm

One is a bottom-dwelling scum-sucking scavenger and the other is a fish

Reminds me of the guy that's pissed off over how his divorce went. He's in a bar bitching about how lawyers are complete assholes - and he's saying it a bit too loud.

So the drunk at the end of the bar stands up and says "I'm not going to sit here and listen to this crap", to which the guy responds. "I'm sorry - I assume you're a lawyer?" And the drunk says "NO - I'm an a$$hole!"

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Postby Mug » Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:26 pm

well can't you reason that a forum is essentially a blog with multi user input, and recently i was hearing on npr that online blogs were starting to behave like periodicals, at least thats what the government wants to be able to censor articles or opinions (see the past news on soldiers blogs or on private bloggers reporting on extremest behaviors). Any how i was touched that a blogger was sent to jail because he did not reveal his sources which in essence is the freedom of speech that all journalist should abide by in order to bring out the truths hiding behind political, economical, and social forces. I'm not saying that the Freedom of speech is essentially an American freedom because that is bullshit, its in essence a freedom of mankind, it crosses all borders. That is the meaning behind my original post and I truly believe that it is our right and safety as kitesurfers to know what is going on behind the companies whom provide us with these thrills. Also if you look into the past posts concerning safeties , think about how much has been exposed by our journalistic sides, and think about how much has changed because of our voice as kiters.

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Postby jkrug » Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:42 pm

dude, if you think freedom of speech is available around the globe, you need to go back to school. even in the USA, political correctness has long dominated freedom of speech, to the point that you can get sued for calling a newbie a newbie. watch out what you say...there's a starving lawyer reading your every word!

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Postby theflyingtinman » Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:29 pm

Tom183 wrote: Yep! I'm guessing you also know the difference between a lawyer and a flounder? :wink:
Did you know that in US research establishments they have stopped
experimentation on rats and replaced them with lawyers. Three reasons
were cited:
1) There are more lawyers than rats in the USA.
2) The researchers don't form emotional bonds with the lawyers.
3) There are some things even rats refuse to do.

;)

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Postby spork » Sat Dec 01, 2007 1:56 am

Mug wrote:I truly believe that it is our right and safety as kitesurfers to know what is going on behind the companies whom provide us with these thrills.
Maybe so. But it's not Toby's responsibility to see that we get this info.

If this is within our "rights" whose job is it to see the info is disseminated - yours?

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Postby Tom183 » Sat Dec 01, 2007 4:33 am

theflyingtinman wrote:2) The researchers don't form emotional bonds with the lawyers.
:lol: got a chuckle out of that one - thx. :thumb:


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