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Hi,
Can anybody comment on the Rhino 08 in 4 line mode in regard to safety/ relaunch / self landing-starting in medium to stronger winds? Dwight? Thanks!

How I rank them, regardless of wind strength...

Self landing: 4 line slightly more automatic and easier (requires 4 line flag out to one front line, like REV bar)

Self Launching from beach: Same for both

Safety on land: Same for both

Safety on water (leash deployed): I'd say 4 lines because it doesn't put the kite on its back.

Relaunching from water: Probably 4 lines because you elimate the risk of a 5th line wrap.

Kite Taco: 5 lines has the advantage. Under extremely odd situations, you can taco any 4 line kite. This would be no exception to that rule.

Dwight - thanks for precious info

What 4 line bar r u using?

Er Presidente wrote:Dwight - thanks for precious info

What 4 line bar r u using?

I use the Slingshot REV bar.

Dwight wrote:

Er Presidente wrote:Dwight - thanks for precious info

What 4 line bar r u using?

I use the Slingshot REV bar.

Why?

Thanks for the info Dwight - Are you satisfied with the 1 front line safety - any kitespinnig experiences on the front line - ever tried both front lines? - Aprrox. how far travels the SS Bar when safety was activated and what does the kite do if safety put together on the water again (crawls to the wind window)?

booster1111 wrote:Thanks for the info Dwight - Are you satisfied with the 1 front line safety - any kitespinnig experiences on the front line - ever tried both front lines? - Aprrox. how far travels the SS Bar when safety was activated and what does the kite do if safety put together on the water again (crawls to the wind window)?

I am thrilled with the performance of the 4 line bar. The kite has never spun. It always lands perfect. Never tried the safety on the water, but I can guess by the way it self lands on the beach, that nothing bad would happen on the water and relaunch is likely easier than having a kite go on its back using 5 lines, which we know can be a nightmare if the kite tumbles and wraps up the 5th line.

The bar travels up the front line as far as needed, then goes no further. No need for a stopper on the line.

I have tried leashes that pull both lines. I tested the EVO bar on the Rhino. It does not work. If you want that style safety, buy the EVO. It was designed for it.

Why the REV bar? Because I got my Rhino a long time ago and North did not have 4 line bars designed for the Rhino. The Rhino was designed using 5 lines. I think North is working on a 4 line bar better suited for it. Because I know how long it takes to build tens of thousands of kites and bars to meet world demand, I decided not to wait and bought a REV bar.

Dwight,
Did you have to make any adjustments to the line lengths on the leaders to tune the kite properly?

k2ski3 wrote:Dwight,
Did you have to make any adjustments to the line lengths on the leaders to tune the kite properly?

Technically yes, but how much I can't recall. The kite is not sensitive to line length differences. Most people should have no trouble adjusting the bar to work.

Any pre- ideas why such a modification /copy (5 th to 1 of the front lines) would not work properly on a 08 North 5 th line bar (which has a different front line angle resp. higher front line connection)?