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Re: Your Kite Leash is Dangerous - Here's a story

Postby The Jess-Man » Sun Aug 10, 2008 3:24 pm

It wasn't just a bit of skin.

And it wasn't a release made by Best that failed.

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Re: Your Kite Leash is Dangerous - Here's a story

Postby jakemoore » Sun Aug 10, 2008 3:28 pm

why not have a pin that will pull away straight rather than the t-bar diamond shaped thing. best I can tell the t-bar keeps you from losing the tube but who cares?

I would say Flysurfer's hooked-in leash is a model of simplicity and safety by having no fishhooks on them to filet your fingers. The leash even hooks to the kite with a larks head rather than a fishhook.

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Re: Your Kite Leash is Dangerous - Here's a story

Postby mbigger » Sun Aug 10, 2008 3:44 pm

The Jess-Man wrote:It wasn't just a bit of skin.

And it wasn't a release made by Best that failed.
I don't get it. Your picture shows a Best leash. What is going on?

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Re: Your Kite Leash is Dangerous - Here's a story

Postby panchito » Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:09 pm

SS and a few other brands use this type of leash , since 2 years I own Ozone kites I have activated the system several times ( similar to the Cab showed on the other page ) and it worked flawlessly .

SO ..... not all leashes are dangerous

The title of the topic is wrong and generally spoken misleading since it sounds like ALL kite leashes are dangerous .

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Re: Your Kite Leash is Dangerous - Here's a story

Postby The Jess-Man » Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:17 pm

Titles not wrong. It's meant to grab your attention so you'll read it the topic. You're right though. There are a few companies that use a different style release. Ozone, Cab, Ocean Rodeo. But there are a lot of companies that use the red tube and metal diamond.

This guys leash was made by a different brand but functioned the same way. I just used my leash to illustrate what happened. That's why I kept the Best logo out of the pictures.
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Re: Your Kite Leash is Dangerous - Here's a story

Postby tomatkins » Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:20 pm

Sorry to double post...see the following post
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Re: Your Kite Leash is Dangerous - Here's a story

Postby tomatkins » Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:24 pm

.Joel wrote:
gung ho kiter wrote:Seems to me there's no need for expensive R&D. On my Slingshot the tube and the metal part stay attached tot the harness and the rope flies out. You can turn the device around and Bob's your uncle.
That's exactly what I was trying to say above, thanks a heap you made it simpler!
The problem with this arrangement is the sliding tube must be puled toward the body and the current train of thought on this subject is that it is better to have all safety release devices set up so that the rider PUSHES the release mechanism AWAY from the body. This push-to-release system also has the advantage of resulting in less accidental releases of the kite.

The hand injury that can be incurred by the use of this type of tube slide, which uses a push-away-to-release mechanism lends support to the "pull-to-release" argument.

When I converted my Slingshot tube release to the "push-to-release" type of safety release, I immediately noticed the problem of the "T" pin raking my hand, but I decided to risk this type of hand injury, as a trade-off for the better "push-to-release" safety system. I may be sorry...time will tell.

There is a post on Kiteforum discussing the pros and cons of the push versus the pull release action of safety systems.

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Re: Your Kite Leash is Dangerous - Here's a story

Postby Kosh » Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:31 pm

I would say it is bad design of the pin...Maybe when using a pin like this, it should always be pull to release, but for the quick release systems used by Cabrinha and others, push is far better. Only a week since I released my kite in the middle of a jump when a bridleline broke (2,5 year old kite..). Happy that is is so easy to release the QR, only took a second from it happened until kite was released. Fell 3m down in the water.

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Re: Your Kite Leash is Dangerous - Here's a story

Postby afflatus » Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:36 pm

Personally,

I think the truly telling declaration here was...

(paraphrased)

A front line broke the kite was looping out of control, he pulled the C-loop release, it had no effect... he was still getting killed, he decided to dump the whole kite...

Now tell me what are kite leashes for?

Seriously, what are they for now? Now in the days of the mad looper.

I think the kite leash has always been a bad thing, something that enables stupid shit.

just my long held considered opinion, now stronger than ever...

f*** a bunch of kite leashes
fo

there is only one valid situation that requires a leash, and that leash has a proper name:

The suicide leash

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Re: Your Kite Leash is Dangerous - Here's a story

Postby Kosh » Sun Aug 10, 2008 7:48 pm

And if someone without a leash releases the QR, and the kite crashes into you (or the bar hits you), or a child on the beach? What then? Personally I would be :angryfire: at the guy for not using a leash. The Cabrinha 2009 kites have absolutely no need for a leash, except for unhooked. I guess it is too early to tell if the system works 100% each time, but so far, it looks good.


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