Naish 09 bar reviews?

[jpeskin]

Anyone have any feedback on the Naish 2009 bar? It looks pretty nice.

Someone in the industry told me they heard that the swivel doesn't work well. That surprised me since it looked very solid.

Any other experiences? Or reviews in general?

Thanks

[JGTR]

Show me a swivel that does work though

[Nukin]

I just picked up this bar for my kites and it unswivels everything. You can do 100 rotations in the same direction and no tangles. I had bars with the mickey mouse swivel and they stop working after a while.

http://www.core-kites.com/content/view/29/66/lang,en/

[cglazier]

I have been using the 2009 Naish SLE bar for a couple of weeks now and it works great. There are some minor improvements over the 2008 such as better grip, larger floats and bar width adjusters. There is also a front line leash system for beginners. I believe it is the best made bar available from any company.

The swivel works as well as possible, but there is simply not enough torque on any swivel to force it to rotate consistently under load. Sometimes I just reach up and manually untwist the front lines by forcing the swivel to rotate ..easy and takes only seconds. Of course the best solution to twisted lines is simply to do back or front rolls to untwist them.


C Glazier

[Uride2]

Really enjoying the Naish bar and kites. Really like the below bar de-power - works great, the stopper is perfect - use it when you want to - just slide it up when you don't need it.Bar is very comfortable.

But, the swivel does not swivel, not even a little (anyone have some help here?)
There must be a swivel design that works? One answer might be for Naish to put a swivel at the chicken loop like Cabrinha's - my old CB2 did not twist at all, the sb2 did twist, but you could just grab the swivel at the chicken loop and un-twist the lines.

[goosh]

I did a demo of both the Cult and the Helix a couple of week ago.

I found the bar pretty nice, but it wasn't perfect.. when the mini-fifth line was setup, my lines got pretty tangled after a fall.. and it took me quite a while to untangled them in the water (with the kite parked on the side of the window)

the swivel worked just ok.. a lot of the times I had to do rotations the other way 'cause the lines would stay twisted..

without using the fifth line (never even tried it) and attaching the leash to the depower line I found that it's great when you ditch the bar while unhooked that it depowers the kite almost completely.. then again it was painful that I had to rest my trip every time.. (though I guess safer)

I usually ride suicide.. so I'll have to try that next time..

I really liked both the Cult and the Helix though.. The cult felt a lot like my 07 Boxers (just better) though I felt very comfortable with it.. the Helix felt like a completely different kite.. (to my boxer)
a lot more C like.. a lot more grunty, more powerful

[mossman]

Make sure you check your swivels prior to going out on CG's the screw had almost come all the way out. if it had the front lines would have neen gone and chris would be in an interesting place on only his rear line.

Teflon tape or locktight (water proof).

[FL Kiteboarder]

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Be sure to give this related thread a read-through.

Some topics covered in the thread -

If you are a 2009 Naish owner and your swivel looks like what we have here in the photos,
it is safer to ask for the new part from Naish...

It seems a limited number of 2009 Naish Control Bars shipped without the *NEW* adjustable bar ends...

Marc

[tautologies]

hei, I think most of it has been covered..I like the bars, nice solid grip, very very clean. I think there is quite a few options in terms of using a mini 5th on the one of the front lines, or directly to the center, or even just attaching it to the depower stap...

The funny thing for me the swivel worked great the first few times, but then now it swivels when it get to be a lot of turns on it..now I usually just leave it there, and haven't really noticed any big problems. I was thinking it might actually spin better if I stick a little wd40 on it..but I am not sure how that would affect the lines (if anything)...anyone got ideas here?

For the screw that comes out on the swivel, I have two bars, one that I had to put lock tight on, and the other (bought later), which is not going anywhere so it seems they fixed that problem (I got the bars on different point of time)...but check it...

[mocolombo]

The 09 naish bar is perfect! Excelent in all aspects! But i can't change to set the size (21' to 19'), it's so hard i can't pull. Any help?