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Re: fatality in france

Postby uncle sammy » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:45 pm

Sounds like a really scary situation.
All of these injuries lately makes me think about the quick release all the time.
I hope that someone else might learn from it as well.
My deepest condolences to the family.

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Re: fatality in france

Postby Clarencephil » Fri Nov 12, 2010 4:15 pm

I have read various articles in the French press and on french kite forums.
Some claim that though he was experienced, he was riding on 'old' equipment (maybe C-kites) with little depower. They also say he was new to this region, which is known for having strong gusty winds, having just moved from Toulouse, an inland city, where he was kiting on lakes.

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Re: fatality in france

Postby hombrekiteloop » Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:00 pm

I don’t know all there is to know so I’m sure it’s been different for other people but in my experience squalls and fronts etc don’t hit without at least a little warning. Usually just before one of these big changes the wind gives signs. I’ve been caught out by a squall and with a bit of bad luck it could have been a much worse situation. However a minute or two before it hit my kite flew very erratically and dropped out of the sky. Instead of looking behind me to see what was happening I just relaunched and carried on. If there’s a sudden change in temperature, the characteristics of the wind or if it starts to rain take some time to look around and re-asses the conditions.

As others have said try to remember that being on the water is safer than being on the beach. If you see a squall coming it’s probably best to head away from the beach not in. Squalls are usually short lived but even if it doesn’t pass quickly you’re safer and have more time to think if you’re further out. Make sure you understand your safety, not just how to release but what will happen when you do. I’ve seen many people (me included) that didn’t realize that a double depower line does not extend the depower, it just overrides the stopper ball (on my kite anyway). Releasing the kite may leave it flying just the same but on the end of the leash. If you need to flag the kite, you may need to move your leash to a number two’s handle.

As others have stated this is not meant as any form of assumption as to the circumstances of this accident or judgement of the actions of the extremely unfortunate rider involved.

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Re: fatality in france

Postby Dr Cool » Fri Nov 12, 2010 7:07 pm

Didn't know him
but I miss him

probably a nice bloke he was

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hope he did not realise what happenned to him

I share his familiy and friend's pain.

DO NOT ride in front of tall and wide buildings.

It seems that on this horrific accident it made all the difference
adding a third vertical dimension where 2D is usually enough to hurt yourself.

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Re: fatality in france

Postby kitepilot » Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:40 am

Didn't know him either, but I'm sad he's gone.
Look at him totally cool, happy, a brother kiteboarder.
All you a&&holes... ( shoulda, woulda, coulda,) why not just feel sorry for his loved ones. Turning this tragic story into your own little pedestal to stand up on and preach how much you know. How you wouldn't have done this or that. Pathetic POS....
Accidents happen.
This isn't golf...
We can all learn but this specific thread is not your pedestal, start your own.
RIP brother.....

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Re: fatality in france

Postby OsloKite » Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:27 am

frankm1960 wrote:Are the local weather forecasts lacking or are people not paying attention to them?
Maybe some places are simply unpredictable.
Here, most times, the forecasts catch and report gusty or stormy conditions well in advance and I'm grateful for that.
Any place can be unpredictable at a special, rare occasion.
Sudden wind gust can not be predected by weather forecast produced by computer for a huge area 10 x 10 km.

Kiting will always carry a risk, even with the safest kites.

I was suddenly lifted several meters into the air while demonstarting with a small 2.5m2 traction kite (fixed bridle, no depower) to beginners.

I let kite handles and I fell on the ground, uninjured, kite flew away and fell on the ground.

What happened? Sudden gust higher up (kite was 25 m in the air at 12), and I went verticaly up without any prior warning.

Kite was with quad-handles only, so it was easy to release, just by letting the quad-handles.
If it was attached to a harnes, I would have been several meters in the air even before having time to think to release.

Sometimes, you just have no time to release kite, it happens too fast.

Sometimes, people just have to die.
We take risks every day enetering cars, trains, plains, buildings, sea.

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Re: fatality in france

Postby plummet » Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:40 am

I think your wrong kitepilot. theses sorts of threads are the exact location to discuss the accident the errors and learn from them.

The only positive thing that can come out of this is that we learn something from it and ensure we are safer in the future.

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Re: fatality in france

Postby Toby » Mon Nov 15, 2010 1:15 pm

I agree plummet

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Re: fatality in france

Postby suRff » Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:00 pm

I reluctantly agree with Plummet. I can only imagine how heart-wrenching it is to read here for family and friends though. I personally have learned a lot about kite safety from these kinds of threads in my early days of kiting. So for what it is worth, this community discussion can help the safety of others.
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Re: fatality in france

Postby TheRussian » Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:07 pm

Toby wrote:I agree plummet
I don't, imho a rider down thread should not have analysis - out of respect, it should be left to an obituary and messages of condolence. Analysis and advise how to try to avoid a similar occurrence should take place in it's own thread.

RIP Adrien


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