can you give bit more comparsion between 10.5 and 12m high/low end and turning speed? Have flown 10.5 kite and it seems very sweet, but definately not the fastest flying or gruntiest kite, so i'm having doubts whether it is right decision to go 10.5+7 or better 12+9. I'm 75kg and for sub 15knots wind have another 14m kite.ptraykovski wrote:I have the 12 and 10.5 visions and smaller religions. Have not tried smaller visions yet
I really like the larger size visions. They work great for light air waves, with nice quick turning, very smooth power delivery, and good drift. With the light construction they float in the sky and climb back up very nicely in light air. Upwind is good also, they sit a a nice spot in the window, not too far forward, not too far back..just right! In the large sizes I prefer them to the religions but am probably sacrficing some durability for performance as the religions have super heavy duty dacron everywhere construction
Also fun freeride/freestyle kite, not as boosty/punchy as the obsession, more of a forgiving feel, but way better than the obs in the waves
I'm about 15 kg heavier than you and only use the 12 for the lightest winds, and use the 10.5 much more. the 10.5 is pretty close in low end and it is bit more reactive so I prefer it as soon as over 16 knots or so. At your weight if you all ready have a light air kite (14) go for the 10.5, that should a good step. the 12 would probably be too close to your 14. They are not super grunty (more smooth than grunty) but move around well enough and sit far back that I find get plenty of low end performance. Even at 215 lbs I use my 10.5 on both a twin or surfboard when others, some lighter than me, are on 12s and 14s.kovacs wrote:
can you give bit more comparsion between 10.5 and 12m high/low end and turning speed? Have flown 10.5 kite and it seems very sweet, but definately not the fastest flying or gruntiest kite, so i'm having doubts whether it is right decision to go 10.5+7 or better 12+9. I'm 75kg and for sub 15knots wind have another 14m kite.
To be rightfully understood- low end for Vision is not bad, BUT i've seen better! It depends to whom you compare, but if you compare to Passion ('09) its definately better for passion (actually never seen kite to have better low-end, for the size ). Also thing not to be underestimated are BOARD & CONDITIONS, not only wind speed!!!Youtch wrote:So, to sum, you are saying that Vision have quite a bad low end, which was the opposite of my initial expectations based on the shape.
Thank you very much for your information anyway, it is always worth to have real life feedback and share experience.
Looking forward to read your review of the 12m.