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Re: Feeling of popping into a Raley

Postby john a » Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:52 am

@Toby: so you don´t only do SICK boardoff tricks? but some unhooked stuff as well when nobody looks? hehe ;)

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Re: Feeling of popping into a Raley

Postby Jdizzle » Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:21 am

john a wrote:@Toby: so you don´t only do SICK boardoff tricks? but some unhooked stuff as well when nobody looks? hehe ;)
Although I'm not in to Airstyle, I reckon a popped Railey is a piece of piss compared to some of those board offs Toby does, respect!

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Re: Feeling of popping into a Raley

Postby john a » Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:33 am

Jdizzle wrote:
john a wrote:@Toby: so you don´t only do SICK boardoff tricks? but some unhooked stuff as well when nobody looks? hehe ;)
Although I'm not in to Airstyle, I reckon a popped Railey is a piece of piss compared to some of those board offs Toby does, respect!
I can sure sign on that one - I´m having a lot more troubles with my boards offs than I ever did on my railys... ;)
I even closed the book on a megaloop due to some nice boardoffs juding the nationals, they are way harder than people think ;) and way way under rated in my opinion!

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Re: Feeling of popping into a Raley

Postby Toby » Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:50 am

A railey for me is one of the few stylish unhooked tricks.
I wish the current tricks with a railey and passing it would do a proper, stretched railey before, and not that angled arms stuff. Wouldn't call that railey at all.

Technical speaking the megaloop is a joke, but ballwise the toughest on there is.
Still waiting for the wannabe hardcores to pull a triple spin boardoff mega loop.
That would be real progression in the sport! But I guess they are too cool to take the sport a level higher and rather keep doing the same stuff over and over.
Copy and paste!

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Re: Feeling of popping into a Raley

Postby noFriendsZA » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:52 pm

thanks for all the feedback guys, I hear you, you need to be 100% committed!

came down hard most of the time but will keep at it :thumb:

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Re: Feeling of popping into a Raley

Postby Larse » Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:01 pm

Woe Toby :) Respect :) You are actually right about the unhooked stuff. I also like passes way better, when they start of with a proper realey, fully strecteh and board above the head. But so few kiteboarders can pull off technical tricks like that. They lack the power to pull the bar to the hip fast enough. So they "cheat" by keeping elbows bend at about 90 degrees. Makes it so much easier...

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Re: Feeling of popping into a Raley

Postby Toby » Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:16 pm

but I do hope they work on that!
this is where I pay attention to...trying to make it stylish as can be. For me it is not done to pull the trick...once I landed it, I will work on style.

Did you ever see a railey based trick completely stretched before? If so, any videos? Would like to see the difference!

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Re: Feeling of popping into a Raley

Postby kas911 » Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:20 pm

A blind judge to heelside is often seen fully stretched and stylish (backside rotation)

But i dont think i have ever seen a stylish 313 (railey with 360 frontside HP)

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Re: Feeling of popping into a Raley

Postby kas911 » Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:28 pm



1.08 = nice. But he is aslo rather skilled i think ;-)

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Re: Feeling of popping into a Raley

Postby edt » Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:42 pm

Toby wrote: Technical speaking the megaloop is a joke, but ballwise the toughest on there is.

Megaloop is to hooked in as hooked in is to unhooked.

Unhooked tricks are more technically difficult but they don't bring the oohs and aahs from the spectators on the beach that a big air board off does.

Hooked in tricks are more technically difficult but they don't bring the oohs and aahs from the spectators on the beach that a megaloop backroll does.

I think there has to be a way to teach megaloops and not tear up an ACL. Reuben Lenten has never had problems with his knees, I think this is because he learned on his own how to feel when the kite is in the wrong place, kick off his board and splash, where beginners can't feel that the kite is wrong try to land and snap their acls.


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