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c kites (no pullies) that dont need depowering before unhook

Postby longwhitecloud » Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:25 am

c kites (no bridles) that dont need depowering before unhook - and that must not mean riding with a load of depower if u know what i mean (ie at sweet spot and steer real well still..). I want back stalling to be an impossibility.

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Re: c kites (no pullies) that dont need depowering before un

Postby jedi1 » Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:27 am

Slingshot Fuel :wink:

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Re: c kites (no pullies) that dont need depowering before un

Postby s29feb » Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:37 am

Airush Razor :thumb:

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Re: c kites (no pullies) that dont need depowering before un

Postby RideLow » Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:40 am

Almost any c-kite with lines tuned correctly..

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Re: c kites (no pullies) that dont need depowering before un

Postby dyyylan » Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:43 pm

The switch combat doesn't even move when you unhook, even if you're a little oversheeted... youll just end up having way too much power. it's quite nice

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Re: c kites (no pullies) that dont need depowering before un

Postby TheJoe » Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:50 pm

Every single C-Kite out there. Do people really not understand how to trim a kite? Your problem is not the kite but the chicken loop being to small. Make a chicken loop that fits you so you don't have to trim the kite before unhooking. Look at Hadlow's loop in his vids it is huge.

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Re: c kites (no pullies) that dont need depowering before un

Postby windmaker » Mon Dec 12, 2011 3:16 pm

Why don't you guys mention the ones that do stall. It will be faster.

Over sheeting is when the back lines are tighter than the front lines. In that case any kite will stall so just learn to trim your bar and don't assume the factory settings are correct.

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Re: c kites (no pullies) that dont need depowering before un

Postby skyte » Mon Dec 12, 2011 3:18 pm

yeah this is about trimming the kite correctly, but that comes at a cost on some kites depending on your own personal ergonomics...

It's to do with the length of the chickenloop + QR... if this is really short then when u trim the kite to be right for unhooking, you have to ride around like a spaz holding the bar towards the chickenloop... its a really uncomfortable riding position. If you trim the kite to be comfortable for just riding around then with a short chickenloop QR it will be oversheeted when you unhook.

I have long arms and I cannot ride Naish, North, Slingshot, Ozone etc etc etc because I find the ergonomics so bad - its either trimmed right for unhooking but then awful for normal riding or OK for normal riding and completely oversheeted for unhooking. I believe Naish do sell different sized chickenloops to solve this tho.

The HADLOW iD bar (and Flexi bars) have a long Chiskenloop + QR which makes them great for unhooking and riding but it means you need long arms like me or Aaron to be comfortable otherwise you need to buy the smaller chickenloops.

This whole trimming of the kite is true for every kite ever made, not just C-Kites.

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Re: c kites (no pullies) that dont need depowering before un

Postby s29feb » Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:07 pm

The Razor come with one set of knots on the back lines and I bunged the lines on these and have never had to trim the 11, 9 or 7m for unhooking. It has never back-stalled or misbehaved and it still has a load of depower and you can freeride quite comfortably with it.

Most hybrids kites I have owned I have either trimmed or made some extra knots on the pigtails to suit the conditions and then if it was an up and down day you'd um and aw and fanny about - not so now :thumb:

The OP is referring to the Torch I think and if you want something similar to that then try the Razor, or the Vegas? IMO the Fuel and the Hadlow are a bit more 'hardcore' - great at what they do but might not be what you want?

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Re: c kites (no pullies) that dont need depowering before un

Postby grantman54 » Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:35 pm

Epic Judge is a new player on the block. I havent had to depower before unhooking and havent noticed a back-stalling problem.

Other top C kites that come to mind (That I would consider buying) are the:
Fuel
Torch
Razor
Hadlow
Combat
Nirvana (maybe not a true C but close enough for me)
Vegas


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