Hey guys,
I've tried friend's 10m Torch and I love its unhooked performance. The only thing stopping me to consider these kites for myself is the behavior in simple situations. The kite managed to fly behind the head when it was at 12 and fell down between lines. I'd say it's ok if wind was gusty. But it wasn't. And wasn't lite as well. It was just perfect for unhooked. The other thing is water start in light wind. On his first way down the kite pulls me from water but then can't manage to fly upwards. Felt like a newbie with start problems. And the wind wasn't too lite again, it was enough to get height and jump downwind.
Don't want to believe it's expected behavior from the Torches. The one I've tried was with 2011 bar. Can it be the issue? Have anyone the same problems with 2012 kite and bar?
2012 Naish Torch 10m
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Re: 2012 Naish Torch 10m
Hmm, not seen that. I'd say if the lines are not right ie. too short 5th line, it might disturb the balance of the kite, but would not expect that at all.justkid wrote:Hey guys,
I've tried friend's 10m Torch and I love its unhooked performance. The only thing stopping me to consider these kites for myself is the behavior in simple situations. The kite managed to fly behind the head when it was at 12 and fell down between lines. I'd say it's ok if wind was gusty. But it wasn't. And wasn't lite as well. It was just perfect for unhooked. The other thing is water start in light wind. On his first way down the kite pulls me from water but then can't manage to fly upwards. Felt like a newbie with start problems. And the wind wasn't too lite again, it was enough to get height and jump downwind.
Don't want to believe it's expected behavior from the Torches. The one I've tried was with 2011 bar. Can it be the issue? Have anyone the same problems with 2012 kite and bar?
I'm not sure if this is what you ask, but for relaunch, it is just pulling a little on the 5th, and one backline, the kite comes out easily even in super light winds.
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Re: 2012 Naish Torch 10m
I wasn't about relaunch, it's always easy with 5 line setup. I was about starting from the water, when a kite is in the air and i'm sitting in the water
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Re: 2012 Naish Torch 10m
Oh wow that sounds weird. So if you dive the kite to go you cannot turn it back up?justkid wrote:I wasn't about relaunch, it's always easy with 5 line setup. I was about starting from the water, when a kite is in the air and i'm sitting in the water
That sounds like the back lines are too long / 5th is way too short. Definitely not normal behavior.
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Re: 2012 Naish Torch 10m
Keep it low and in front of you unhooking. The torch backstalls a bit so pull in a bit of 5th line as a water drenched kite can make it worse.
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Re: 2012 Naish Torch 10m
What i saw on different beach is that the Torch has a tendency to bakstall if you do a mistake when jumping....and some time the 5th line roll around the kite !
It the reason i did not buy it.....good kite, but hate this 5th line and backstall tendency !
Furthermore when it hit the water, it is not so rigid, and if you have little wave or shore break it could be impossible to relauch it......
It the reason i did not buy it.....good kite, but hate this 5th line and backstall tendency !
Furthermore when it hit the water, it is not so rigid, and if you have little wave or shore break it could be impossible to relauch it......
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Re: 2012 Naish Torch 10m
Right. Will wait for 10m weather to try it with new 2012 bar. BTW, 7m 2011 Torch with that bar (2011 as well) doesn't have those issues.tautologies wrote:Oh wow that sounds weird. So if you dive the kite to go you cannot turn it back up?
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Re: 2012 Naish Torch 10m
Are you mean send jumps? It happens when you act wrong with your board while release the water. However it's very friendly and forgiving unhooked. You can perform some tricks half-speed when you learn them and it still gives you enough pop.Mike27 wrote:What i saw on different beach is that the Torch has a tendency to bakstall if you do a mistake when jumping....and some time the 5th line roll around the kite !
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Re: 2012 Naish Torch 10m
Hi
Love the kite.
High jumps, forgiving, and really smooth unhooked.
The only issue I find is the front stalling when at 12 o'clock.
A friend of mine has a 11m and its the same issue.
Now when I am aware of it its not a problem, but was supprised the first time i tried it. I think its the first time I had this problem since the naish X3
8m no problem what so ever!
Love the kite.
High jumps, forgiving, and really smooth unhooked.
The only issue I find is the front stalling when at 12 o'clock.
A friend of mine has a 11m and its the same issue.
Now when I am aware of it its not a problem, but was supprised the first time i tried it. I think its the first time I had this problem since the naish X3
8m no problem what so ever!
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Re: 2012 Naish Torch 10m
KE wrote:Hi
Love the kite.
High jumps, forgiving, and really smooth unhooked.
The only issue I find is the front stalling when at 12 o'clock.
A friend of mine has a 11m and its the same issue.
Now when I am aware of it its not a problem, but was supprised the first time i tried it. I think its the first time I had this problem since the naish X3
8m no problem what so ever!
Maybe I just haven't left it a 12 enough? Torch is definitely not the kite I've ridden the most. I think my biggest issue so far has been getting spanked trying to loop it and messing up
