Cray wrote: acctx wrote:
Cray wrote:Had a bad experiance with Cabrinha IDS (2010 I think), when I pulled the safety the darn thing didn't flip over and kept pulling me out in offshore wind :-/. Rescue picked me up.
I have had this happen, but when it flies after you release it is flying upside down. Kind of like when you are carrying it by the front two lines. In strong wind it can definitely pull you, but the pull isnt that hard. You can pull the ids line and get to where the lines split. Once you get to where the lines split you can pull one line and the kite will flip over.
Actually in your case it did flip over, just in the wrong way... even Rebel can do that in low wind. In my case after pulling safety the leading edge was stuck in water and kite surface was a fully inflated downwind sail :-/.
I think that may be a feature of some of the Cabrinha kites. In this video of the Nomad, which has a flatter leading edge and less of a bow shape, you can see he has to walk toward the kite to make it drop on its back and at 0:30 seconds, he pulls the IDS line in a bit just before the leading edge lands and as the kite lands, he releases the line to make it fall on its back.
The same thing can happen with my Nobile 555. It can get stuck nose down and its best to pull that bit of line in if you can and release it as it lands on the water as it may be impossible to swim fast enough at the kite to make it fall on its back.
I have Xbows so dont have that problem with the IDS.
I think the Rebel 5th line is safer, but maybe a bit more of a risk to the kite than the kiter, so as long as you are prepared to let the kite go early enough, if I wanted ultimate safety I would choose the Rebel. The IDS gives me other advantages though and with the kites I am using, I prefer the IDS.