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any difference between flip and roll?

Postby Toby » Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:11 pm

going thru the trick list...and wondering which is the correct word...flip or roll?

is it the same?

e.g. back flip or back roll !!!

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Re: any difference between flip and roll?

Postby bullet » Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:30 pm

i think roll sounds more kitey as a flip in fares going end over end

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Re: any difference between flip and roll?

Postby Westozzy » Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:41 pm

Always known it as a roll. Although my brother continues to call it a spin, sounds as bad as a flip.

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Re: any difference between flip and roll?

Postby longwhitecloud » Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:54 pm

interesting question..

you got corked - sideways or upside down/off axis (eg snowboarding)

flip - cartwheel style upside down (eg bmx,skateboarding)

spin - like spinning around lines upright - kiting/ wakeboarding eg flat 3 would be a spin i reckon

roll - ... not sure what snowboarders/wakeboarders of today would call a fs roll/ if they would call it that at all... kiteboarders for sure refer to spins as rolls though quite often

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Re: any difference between flip and roll?

Postby mocolombo » Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:19 pm

In my opinion,

Spin = turn around lines axis (vertical against water)

Roll = turn horizontal, pararel against water

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Re: any difference between flip and roll?

Postby TheJoe » Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:21 pm

It's a roll not a flip. Tantrum's and Bel Airs are flips. If the kite is at 12 its a spin.

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Re: any difference between flip and roll?

Postby Toby » Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:23 pm

ok, thx guys!

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Re: any difference between flip and roll?

Postby Brent4336 » Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:26 pm

TheJoe has it right


Axis of rotation is vertical for a spin, off axis for a roll and horizontal for a flip.
Kite lift will suspend you so you end up doing a spin. Keeping the kite locked at 45 you can do a roll, and not using kite lift at all is how you get a flip.

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Re: any difference between flip and roll?

Postby tr3v » Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:59 pm

Brent4336 wrote: Axis of rotation is vertical for a spin, off axis for a roll and horizontal for a flip.
End of story.

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Re: any difference between flip and roll?

Postby WildDuke » Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:57 pm

TheJoe wrote:It's a roll not a flip. Tantrum's and Bel Airs are flips. If the kite is at 12 its a spin.
I ag-wee!


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