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Re: Epic Infinity & Bullshit Light Wind Claims

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:00 pm
by L0KI
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Re: Epic Infinity & Bullshit Light Wind Claims

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:42 pm
by Kamikuza
Pump me up wrote:
Kamikuza wrote:What does "perform" mean, Pump-a-chump? :roll:
No need to be so formal, please feel free to call me "Mr Pumpy".

We've already discussed the definition of "perform" previously, and open to suggestions, but a reasonable definition would be a kite being at least able to hold its ground (stay upwind) for a significant period of time (eg 20 mins), using standard equipment ( twin tips, directionals, surfboards, race boards).
Oh, Mr Chumpy... do you even kite? :lol:

Re: Epic Infinity & Bullshit Light Wind Claims

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:24 pm
by alexrider
Pump me up wrote:The video conclusively shows the Core 19m kite OUTPERFORMING the Epic V3 Infinity.

Clearly, the Epic Infinity doesn't get you going on a twin tip until well over ??? 12 knots.
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Ignore the lies. Ignore the propaganda.
No kite can perform under 7-8 knots, let alone 2-4 knots.


Pumpy ……………………… :pump:
Have you noticed? :dumbo: PMU's rants are alive and well, but for some reason, shifted object; wherever RAM AIR appeared, it has been replaced by EPIC INFINITY!

In his detailed diatribe, he forgot the concluding line:
Ram airs are aerodynamically inferior compared to inflatables and nothing can change this.

which only needed to be edited to:

Epic kites are aerodynamically inferior compared to other light wind kites and nothing can change this.

Isn't he working as an undercover for Flysurfer anymore? My guess he is now working for Dimitri to create more buzz around the Infinity.

BTW, is the $ 10000 offer for sub-5 knots "performing" still valid?

Re: Epic Infinity & Bullshit Light Wind Claims

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:12 pm
by Dimitri M
Hello UKSurf,
As you can see I am always here to help answer any of your questions. So I was able to have some one at the office weigh the INFINITY V3 kite so you get a better idea of its weight just to help you with your research and compare its weight as a light wind kite with other kite companies. It is kite only with no bags, no pump, no bar, just kite only with a strap and bladders and it weights 8.65 lbs (3.93 kg).
:thumb:

Re: Epic Infinity & Bullshit Light Wind Claims

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:44 pm
by SupaEZ
Oldnbroken wrote: Kites fell out of sky at same time, Dimitri tried reverse launch and Supa went standard relaunch, ...no new information.
Sorry about your injury Chrys old dog...get well soon
Supa DID NOT DO STANDARD RELAUNCH

You are inventing stuff...in your head

My reverse launch in 4-5kn was textbook perfect...too bad his V3 kite had "failure to launch"

My LE was down..my kite went up in reverse 10 feet...spun itself to LE up...effortless if you ask me

Maybe it has to do with Dimitri's poor eyesight at a distance of 20 meters and beyond..who knows

The video's intent was to demonstrate that side by side his kite was surely no better..actually worse

And in the video..you also see that D looks unusual,defeated,something he is not used to

He should have brought or used better LW toys to come play with me...he had a rough afternoon

That day was a big EVENT for D....for me there was no surprise...it was kiting in LW as usual

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RkFhVvtJOM

Re: Epic Infinity & Bullshit Light Wind Claims

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:53 pm
by Tone
SupaEZ wrote:
Oldnbroken wrote: Kites fell out of sky at same time, Dimitri tried reverse launch and Supa went standard relaunch, ...no new information.
Sorry about your injury Chrys old dog...get well soon
Supa DID NOT DO STANDARD RELAUNCH

You are inventing stuff...in your head

My reverse launch in 4-5kn was textbook perfect...too bad his V3 kite had "failure to launch"

My LE was down..my kite went up in reverse 10 feet...spun itself to LE up...effortless if you ask me

Maybe it has to do with Dimitri's poor eyesight at a distance of 20 meters and beyond..who knows

The video's intent was to demonstrate that side by side his kite was surely no better..actually worse

And in the video..you also see that D looks unusual,defeated,something he is not used to

He should have brought or used better LW toys to come play with me...he had a rough afternoon

That day was a big EVENT for D....for me there was no surprise...it was kiting in LW as usual

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RkFhVvtJOM
Ez,

Your test is flawed and your "result" is null and void.

Neither kite won that "test"

Did you have longer lines?

Your kite was bigger

You were on a free race board

For a test to be valid you need both kites to be on the same lines and board, with the same rider.

One of you on a much better light wind board is not a valid test.

Tony

Re: Epic Infinity & Bullshit Light Wind Claims

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:58 pm
by windsuks
SupaEZ wrote:
Oldnbroken wrote: Kites fell out of sky at same time, Dimitri tried reverse launch and Supa went standard relaunch, ...no new information.
Sorry about your injury Chrys old dog...get well soon
Supa DID NOT DO STANDARD RELAUNCH

You are inventing stuff...in your head

My reverse launch in 4-5kn was textbook perfect...too bad his V3 kite had "failure to launch"

My LE was down..my kite went up in reverse 10 feet...spun itself to LE up...effortless if you ask me

Maybe it has to do with Dimitri's poor eyesight at a distance of 20 meters and beyond..who knows

The video's intent was to demonstrate that side by side his kite was surely no better..actually worse

And in the video..you also see that D looks unusual,defeated,something he is not used to

He should have brought or used better LW toys to come play with me...he had a rough afternoon

That day was a big EVENT for D....for me there was no surprise...it was kiting in LW as usual

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RkFhVvtJOM

Strewth you really are full of it aren't you!
I find this even after all your other weird posts to be quite extraordinary (in a sad way Supa don't take in good way please)

Re: Epic Infinity & Bullshit Light Wind Claims

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 4:10 pm
by alexrider
Tone wrote:
SupaEZ wrote: ...
My reverse launch in 4-5kn was textbook perfect...too bad his V3 kite had "failure to launch"
My LE was down..my kite went up in reverse 10 feet...spun itself to LE up...effortless if you ask me
...
Ez,
Your test is flawed and your "result" is null and void.
....
One of you on a much better light wind board is not a valid test.
Tony
Are you saying boards designed for light wind make kite relaunch easier?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
SupaEZ was discussing the relaunch ability - a most important feature in LW - more than anything else.
In my book, LW boards make things easier AFTER relaunch.

Re: Epic Infinity & Bullshit Light Wind Claims

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 4:22 pm
by Tone
alexrider wrote:
Tone wrote:
SupaEZ wrote: ...
My reverse launch in 4-5kn was textbook perfect...too bad his V3 kite had "failure to launch"
My LE was down..my kite went up in reverse 10 feet...spun itself to LE up...effortless if you ask me
...
Ez,
Your test is flawed and your "result" is null and void.
....
One of you on a much better light wind board is not a valid test.
Tony
Are you saying boards designed for light wind make kite relaunch easier?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
SupaEZ was discussing the relaunch ability - a most important feature in LW - more than anything else.
In my book, LW boards make things easier AFTER relaunch.
Are you suggesting that running backwards on a beach to relaunch a kite backwards is in anyway an accurate test as to how well it will work on the water?

I too can add many laughing faces :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Epic Infinity & Bullshit Light Wind Claims

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:18 pm
by L0KI
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