Oh, and they also sell the Griffin TRX 17m.golfaroo wrote:Would you guys be able to add another kite to the test: the Griffin Argo 17m? You can ask Progressive Sports in Daytona Beach to send you one, they sell the complete kite for about $1500, so it would be great to know how it compares with the other kites in your test.
I agree and would like to see both models in the test too.golfaroo wrote:... and ... the Griffin TRX 17m.golfaroo wrote:Would you guys be able to add ... the Griffin Argo 17m?
Hopefully should be done by early next week.omg wrote:OceanAdventures - first of all, thank you very much for the reviews you have done! I (too) find them very useful. Big ups to you!
When do you expect to do the review on Cloud C2 version, please?
I like the K.I.S.S. method Supa....SupaEZ wrote:Hello Curt
I want to point out the "total overall distance" from the control bar "bar ends" to the kite "wingtips"
I find this important ...because just going by manufacturer line length is not true distance bar to kite
Flying the Core Riot LW XR3 19 on 3m extensions is rarely necessary
If you re-tested without extending the 24m lines you would like everything about it even more
"Without extensions" the total distance from bar ends to kite's wingtips is almost "26.4 meters"
Adding the extensions makes it real long at almost "29.4 meters ! "...so the top end is reduced a lot
Those are the measurements it have :
Bar end "leaders" for back lines measured 59 inches
Wingtips "leaders" for back lines measured 35 inches
Grand total of 94 inches which is 2.38 meters
See if you can put back up all the lines measurements of the LW kites tested that you once had on
Measure on them the bar leader lines and the wingtip leader lines
We will then get more accurate idea of the distance bar to kite (grand total of back lines length)
Do you think it is important to know that those 2 leaders add almost 10% more length ?
Be nice to know how the other LW kites do also
Agreed!!davesails7 wrote:I think the heated discussion over lightwind kites boils down to people measuring wind differently. The best part about this test is that the focus was on comparing the kites, not on the measured wind speed. As I read through all of these posts, people are saying things like "Your test is wrong! This kite flies in 4 knots!" and then someone says "No you can't, it's only good to 9 knots! arrrgh!"
You can measure the wind lots of ways. I'm lucky to have a wind sensor that is 2 miles off the coast of my local spot with no obstructions. This sensor is on the top of a bridge which is about 150' off the water. It gives very reliable wind readings because it's up off of the water and away from any obstacles.
One of my kite buddies on the other hand has a handheld anemometer that he goes by. When we talk about how much wind we can kite in we come up with very different numbers. Neither is wrong, just very different readings for the same wind.
I was out on my 13m and a surfboard decently powered the other day and he called to me from the beach that I was riding in 7 mph. The wind at my kite was probably more like 12 knots. Neither measurement is wrong, just useless for comparison!
So if you are about to refute a back to back kite comparison with "This can't be! I can ride this kite in X knots and fly upwind!" don't even bother. It's meaningless without a comparison.
Thanks again for these tests! Looking forward to the Cloud review.
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