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Laying out lines: Upwind or Downwind?

Postby UnderWindPower » Sun Mar 09, 2014 7:49 am

Is there a compelling argument for either method? I personally rig with my lines downwind, as I find:

1- I can see my attachment bridles better, and don't have to grope around to find them under the leading edge.

2- If other kiters disappear, or ignore my signals requesting help for launch, I can risk a self launch much easier.

I'm curious if I'm breaking some sort of established etiquette, as a mix of both methods wastes lots of beach space, and also makes it harder to decide where to land on a beach full of kites... I'll often land on/across someone's lines while they are rigging.

I was taught the upwind rigging method.

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Re: Laying out lines: Upwind or Downwind?

Postby knotwindy » Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:08 am

if it is a crowded launch, do it the way everyone else is doing it to avoid confusion and problems, whether it is upwind, downwind or across wind.
if it is an empty launch, do it anyway you like.

does not really matter a lot but i would say you left out another minor reason to lay them downwind,

if you lay them downwind, when you pick up the bar and walk to launch position you will be moving down to up wind and less likely to abuse your helper if it is an assisted launch.

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Re: Laying out lines: Upwind or Downwind?

Postby JGTR » Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:22 am

Yes there is a very compelling reason.

Downwind if the kite moves you have 2 x the length of your lines to do something before the kite becomes a serious hazard.

Upwind as soon as the kite moves it is a hazard and you will be chasing it.

the 2 reasons you mention are also valid........for beginners it makes it easier to check lines are connected correctly.

Think all schools/kite bodies teach the down wind method now.

Altho pretty sure someone will be along soon to tell me that me and the BKSA/IKo and the rest of the whole world are wrong :thumb:

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Re: Laying out lines: Upwind or Downwind?

Postby Flight Time » Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:40 am

I have always rigged upwind. I don't like rigging downwind because if the lines are longer than the space you have allotted by where you placed the bar, you end up trying to untangle the last 10 feet of lines in 3 feet of space. If you rig upwind, you can place the bar anywhere and still rig just as easily. I don't worry about the kite moving because I have a good amount of sand on it, and only remove it when I'm harnessed up and hooked in.

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Re: Laying out lines: Upwind or Downwind?

Postby Peter_Frank » Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:22 am

Crosswind, absolutely no discussion :thumb:

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Re: Laying out lines: Upwind or Downwind?

Postby revhed » Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:30 am

Crosswind for so many reasons!
How do we all launch or land our kites, L E Is that is? Crosswind, normally.
So why not lay out your lines this way to begin with?
Have you ever seen someone land their kite and then walk with the bar either up or down wind?
Although the idea that a beginner can see the proper line connections seems valid.

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Re: Laying out lines: Upwind or Downwind?

Postby plummet » Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:34 am

I'm down or crosswind

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Re: Laying out lines: Upwind or Downwind?

Postby Westozzy » Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:13 am

Do all three depending on place. If plenty of room then cross. Especially if tethering.

Sometimes beach too narrow, downwind.

Another place on the flat estuary we have no other option but to rig upwind.

When rigging upwind, I lay the kite over the lines, and take the outsides all the way around to the edge of each wingtip (drag them from beneath the kite) and attach from the outside of the wing tip, just to make sure.

It all depends....

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Re: Laying out lines: Upwind or Downwind?

Postby Kamikuza » Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:16 am

Prefer downwind as I can check my lines are attached correctly before self launching... peace of mind, basically. But it depends on the space I have.

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Re: Laying out lines: Upwind or Downwind?

Postby mr_daruman » Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:22 am

Always crosswind. Just pickup the kite and launch, no moving the lines and kite around into the launch zone. Also very easy to check your lines. Also nice for self launch.
This prevents lines from getting caught in rocks, thick grass, buried logs, seaweed, trash, boards etc...unless you have a super clean beach.

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