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Guttorm
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Postby Guttorm » Wed May 28, 2014 8:49 pm
There is no +100kg kiter on a twin tip with a 17m kite having real kite fun in less than 10 knots of wind without a upwind current or a wind gradient with stronger wind few meters up. Or going downwind.or without a faulty wind meter.
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Postby OceanAdventures » Wed May 28, 2014 9:17 pm
Guttorm wrote:There is no +100kg kiter on a twin tip with a 17m kite having real kite fun in less than 10 knots of wind without a upwind current or a wind gradient with stronger wind few meters up. Or going downwind.or without a faulty wind meter.
Guttorm 110kg 202cm Edge19 & SS glide
We do it all the time here. Fact of life in a light wind area. Anything bigger than 17m, with the exception so far of the 19m XR3, just starts to lose performance. The Turbine, Flite, Contra are all riding in less than 10 knots. Agreed they maybe aren't having much fun, but what is a definition of fun? Riding is fun. You should come out to our spot, its awesome with a light South wind in the bay. We taught lessons all day yesterday with the wind meter reading about 10mph all day (8mph-13mph Lulls to Gust).
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Postby dracop » Wed May 28, 2014 9:18 pm
Man I'm down to 105 kg or so (kitesurfing is crushing my waistline!) and 16-17m 3-4 strut kites in 10 knot winds are slugs across the board. Yes they have enough grunt to board (especially with full line extensions) but not enough to play at 10 knots. There comes a point where the marketing BS starts to stink, even for brands and kites I like. A Flysurfer 21m might do the trick, although they still suffer from the slow, sweeping performance tube kites suffer from in 10 knot winds.
Ditto the poster above, alot of light wind marketing seems to occur when the wind is 10 knots but the current is adding 5-10 knots due to going the other way. Comes a point where even if its rideable its just not very fun unless you get some help from the current.
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Postby fastrider » Thu May 29, 2014 2:26 am
Try an epic infinity. I bought one and I'm 220 6ft and the kite flies like a 11 and turn fast in light winds I was able to ride mine in 11mph.
The only person who knows what feels right is you. I've had a couple brands for light wind and most do feel very sluggish on turns.
I req the infinity based on my own experience turning was fast.
I'm sure others req differant brands. But try one
Good luck man.
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Postby 14ToeSide » Thu May 29, 2014 4:25 am
6 ft 5 and 241 Pies with 19 Edge 32M Race lines and 6 ft 4 Sweet Potato is just about Equal to Speed 4 Lotus 21 M w Same board.
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Postby dracop » Thu May 29, 2014 4:52 am
Can you jump or do tricks with 32m lines on? I have line extensions for 23m liens that make them 30m, but damn its a slow setup to do jumps/tricks. Can get some air but hard to properly load and pop.
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Postby Kamikuza » Thu May 29, 2014 4:55 am
s1buell_wl wrote:Aummm wrote:Don't buy into any kind of strutless idea
No
The strutless is a limited wavekite since it drifts, but it sits too deep and it kills you when apparent wind peaks out ,
with a limited range and huge bar pressure without enabling you to depower the beast.
Design is one thing, acceptance in the market is another. It has got nothing to do with design IMO,
it is solely about marketing BS and nothing for a grown up kiter can make any use of.
My 2 cents worth
I agree 100%
I was on the zero last week.....never again.
There's more than one bridle setting on the Zero and it completely changes the handling.
10 knots is a bit of a waste if time if you want to do something other than just cruise... which can be good at times.
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Postby VOMKB » Thu May 29, 2014 2:56 pm
An Ozone Edge 19 with 32 meter race lines is equal to a speed 4 21? Are you saying that a 19 meter with longer lines matches the speed 4 21 surface area and also weight?
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Postby SupaEZ » Thu May 29, 2014 7:14 pm
OceanAdventures wrote:
Fact of life in a light wind area. Anything bigger than 17m, with the exception so far of the 19m XR3, just starts to lose performance.
Core Riot XR3 19m2
is the way to go at our beach in the surf..to beat the drift and loop fast
On a fun light wind day (8kn+) we are 5 guys on 19 at my street...( 3 of those still enjoy their XR2's )
Hard to beat this powerful EZ to pump and super fast deflate large Freeride kite
It has also a very enjoyable top end (@18kn) when tuned just right and pumped to @7.5 psi
None of the guys go in and switch kite if wind picks up that high during an increasing sea breeze
We are all on surfboards
Great kite for executing LW tricks with boost and nice float
One friend (100kg) rode an XR3 19 demo from local shop on a foilboard in 6-7kn ripping upwind
He still managed to stay in control ( fully trimmed
) when wind increased to 11-12kn
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