Agree with you on the high end, had my new 14m out in hatteras recently, near the end of the session when others were on 7's to 10's. I was still riding around half depowered, having a blast. Never felt overpowered or out of control. @ 225lbs, eventually I would like to go with a two kite quiver, 10 and 14.john251 wrote:I went ahead and bought the Switch Nitro. I got to try it for the first time this weekend and figured I'd report back on my initial observations. I got the 12m and was riding on the Columbia River in winds of around 25 knots, maybe a bit stronger at times. Compared with the Best Kahoona, a kite I'm very familiar with, this was what I found:
- the top end was unbelievable. I was apprehensive launching a 12m in fairly strong winds, but I wanted to try using it, so I figured I'd give it a go. Towards the end of my session, most people were on 7-9m kites and I still didn't need to adjust the depower, which I had at the midpoint. I felt like I was near the top of the kite's range, but I was in control. That wouldn't have been the case with the Kahoona
- the kite definitely wanted to boost. I found that I was jumping about the same height as with the Kahoona, but my timing and technique with the Nitro were much worse, so I think that once I have those things dialed in, this kite will go quite a bit higher. Landings were noticeably softer. Then again, it's quite difficult to compare, because I would not be able to ride the Kahoona in such strong winds
- to me, it felt like the kite turned slowly. This was the one surprise, because many reviews commented on how fast the kite turns. I think it must have to do with the way it turns, as it is axial and I am used to pivot turning kites. I felt like I really had to pull hard on the bar to get the kite to turn compared with the Kahoona. I'd be interested to hear if anyone else has found that.
- I liked the simplicity of the bar and the adjustability
- The swivel worked flawlessly, which was a nice surprise. I expected to have to turn it manually after rotations
- The bar was a bit hard and narrow for my liking. The best bar is wider and easier on the hands
- I found it hard to keep the depower ball secured, but it's important to as I found it could interfere with the movement of the bar otherwise
- The safety releases easily. I'm yet to test how easily it can be reassembled in the water.
Overall, I think it is a bit of an adjustment going from the Kahoona to the Nitro, but I see lots of potential in this kite, so I'm going to stick with it and learn how to use it properly. I'll be curious to test the low end, because if it's as good as the high end, I might have a one kite quiver now.
Should something so simple require a technique?dyyylan wrote:...The depower ball is definitely not as easy to quickly handle like some other systems, like ones that have velcro on the end (or the new LF one that has magnets). It takes a second longer to position but if you do it right, it does stay on very well. The technique I usually use is I line up that groove on the ball and slide it down the line, rather than trying to stick it directly on. It takes a little more practice but over time it has held a little better for me than other systems (velcro wears out, for example)
I doubt that Bill H designed that depower ball. its just a depower ball. he designs kites.randycasburn wrote:Not trying to be a naysayer or upset any brand loyalists, this is a legitimate objective question concerning...Should something so simple require a technique?dyyylan wrote:...The depower ball is definitely not as easy to quickly handle like some other systems, like ones that have velcro on the end (or the new LF one that has magnets). It takes a second longer to position but if you do it right, it does stay on very well. The technique I usually use is I line up that groove on the ball and slide it down the line, rather than trying to stick it directly on. It takes a little more practice but over time it has held a little better for me than other systems (velcro wears out, for example)
The cheapest no-name bar I have uses a strap and velcro. I basically trim and throw the velcro up to stick it...simple, done. If the velcro wears out, as you suggest, you replace the velcro. The velcro has not worn out is 3 years and 100s of sessions of use.
My intent is not to be critical, I find all the kite companies are scrambling for the patent space left in the sport. That means we suffer as end users because of the incumbrance the patents place on design. Case in point - Core twist to release. So my intent is to hope that Bill reads this thread and reduces the need for as many specialized "techniques" as possible. It seems the ball is one that folks are repeatedly mentioning.