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Wetsuit for cold water/air

Postby dandaka » Wed Apr 01, 2015 5:07 pm

I need your advices and tips on wetsuit selection.

Summer time I kite in following conditions:
http://www.seatemperature.org/europe/li ... laipda.htm

My wetsuit (Mystic Star 5/4) feels comfortable with water above 15°C / air above 15°C. When temperature gets colder (with added chill effect from wind and possible rain), it starts to feel cold and uncomfortable to ride for 1+ hour.

With Star wetsuit I use beanie and 3mm neoprene boots.

I want to select gear, that would allow me to ride comfortable at least with water/air temperature 10°C (would be nice to have 5°C). I don't want to use drysuit. I plan to use it for kitesurfing and surfing/SUP action.

My questions:
1. Are all 5/4 wetsuits providing same comfort temperature? If not, what type should I look for?
2. What type of hood is best for my case?
3. Does gloves add enough warmth to consider them for surfing?
4. Is there a big difference between 6/5/4 wetsuit and 5/4?
5. Is plush inside wetsuit is more about comfort or warmth?
6. Is front side entry is more warm, than backside zipper?

All feedback is much appreciated.

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Re: Wetsuit for cold water/air

Postby STFU » Wed Apr 01, 2015 5:15 pm

Just buy an O'Neill superfreak and get on with it FFS

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Re: Wetsuit for cold water/air

Postby t3rse » Wed Apr 01, 2015 5:16 pm

I've got a 5/3 with good wind protection, and while everyone has a different tolerance level, I'm quite comfortable at 50*F water and <35*F air, which is honestly about as cold as it gets here with rare exceptions. It's neck entry.

I never use head gear, gloves, and only use booties when it's cold enough that it hurts (or I'm riding near oyster beds).

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Re: Wetsuit for cold water/air

Postby Slappysan » Wed Apr 01, 2015 6:27 pm

If you layer a kayak top over your wetsuit you'll cut all the wind chill out and gain several degrees of comfort. I use http://www.mec.ca/product/5024-681/leve ... op-unisex/

I also notice a huge jump in warmth going from a back zip to a chest zip suit, especially if the chest zip has integrated hood. Back zip will always flush more water than chest zip.

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Re: Wetsuit for cold water/air

Postby ElbowRoom » Wed Apr 01, 2015 6:40 pm

Slappysan wrote:If you layer a kayak top over your wetsuit you'll cut all the wind chill out and gain several degrees of comfort. I use http://www.mec.ca/product/5024-681/leve ... op-unisex/
this is true....several friends doing this and we are kiting in sub 40 deg f. air and 50 deg water.

i opted for a playa neoprene hoodie to wear over my 4/3 and with the right mits, boots and wetsuit hood am plenty warm when its seriously cold.

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Re: Wetsuit for cold water/air

Postby edt » Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:23 pm

ElbowRoom wrote:
Slappysan wrote:If you layer a kayak top over your wetsuit you'll cut all the wind chill out and gain several degrees of comfort. I use http://www.mec.ca/product/5024-681/leve ... op-unisex/
this is true....several friends doing this and we are kiting in sub 40 deg f. air and 50 deg water.

i opted for a playa neoprene hoodie to wear over my 4/3 and with the right mits, boots and wetsuit hood am plenty warm when its seriously cold.
Playa is so much better than a wind breaking top (which is what I used to use). Your 4/3 feels like a 6/5 with a playa on top. Don't mean to sound like a shill for that company but for cold weather there is nothing better than a Playa. go out in the morning when it's 0C/0C (32F) water and air, and then later in the afternoon when it warms up to 40F (4.5C) you take it off. Probably my favorite piece of thermal protection.

It's also nice in the summer for between sessions.

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Re: Wetsuit for cold water/air

Postby POACHER » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:21 pm

+1 on the Hyperflex Playa hoodie.

I use a 4.5/3.5mm O'neill in 40F water. The Playa does the trick to make this suit usable (more tolerable) in that cold of water. Well worth the $125.

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Re: Wetsuit for cold water/air

Postby dandaka » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:41 pm

Is this Playa is much different from other neoprene jackets (like Mystic one for example)?
Is neoprene for top is warmer than say nylon?

Mystic has one clear advantage for me — hook hole
http://www.mysticboarding.com/products/ ... eur_000000

Anything else special for this Playa stuff? How do you ride it with harness hook?

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Re: Wetsuit for cold water/air

Postby edt » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:51 pm

there's nothing magic about the playa brand. It's just the first one one the market.

Mystic is fine too! Agree that spreader hook hole is convenient.

I always ride with my jacket under my harness. I think it looks a bit better in the photos that's why.

Riding with the mystic & spreader hook thru the hole can sometimes make you look a bit penguiny. But you'll be warm that's what counts.

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Re: Wetsuit for cold water/air

Postby Slappysan » Wed Apr 01, 2015 10:25 pm

edt wrote:Agree that spreader hook hole is convenient.
Be aware that OR took the hook hole out of their drysuits because if the harness rotates the QR can get swallowed by the hole or accidentally released by it. Safety over fashion IMO.

Another product people seem to like are the Promotion ExoSkin tops to cut out the wind chill.


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