Cray wrote:Trainers ... actually teach wrong body position / bar handling.
Care to point out what's the body position on a trainer vs. unhooked full size kite?
Cray wrote:They have limited value of teaching wind-window to the elderly, becouse elderly need much more time with the kite to develop muscle memory and can't handle concurrently so many different inputs.
Why would a trainer require many different inputs as opposed to a full size kite?
Cray wrote:...The trainer also teaches you that you NEED to hold on to the bar and DON'T LET GO - totally wrong.
And why would that be? The trainer is on a wrist leash - you let go of the bar when things get too much.
Cray wrote:Trainers are being used becouse schools are to cheap to buy proper depower foil and are located at a too windy spots for introduction hour.
What nonsense. First, there are all sorts of trainers, from 2 line foils to 4 line foils with handles to small trainer LEIs, 3 line depower foils, what not. Then, what would a "proper depower foil" be, and why would you want to buy one? Flysurfer? Spleene? Elf?
Cray wrote:Kite handling is not just working the bar, but also respecting the kite/wind, using your whole body to perform kite control and use of depower.
Cray wrote:If you want to "work" the kite the "proper" way, you need a harnes and a full depower kite.
Bullshit. You don't seem to even know kites flown on handles. Go tell all the land boarders and buggiers out there they don't fly kites "the proper way"
Cray wrote:I introduce people to kiting using my full depower 6m2 winter foil kite at around 4-8 kts. People learn amasingly fast "the right thing"(tm). Using full body and depower for kite control, not just jerking the bar left-right.
You obviously never flew a 2m open cell foil in decent wind.
Of course I hold the harnes handle and take the bar controls if things start to go south
. They soon learn to "let go"(tm); they beat that instinct pretty fast.
I'd like to see that, holding down an overpowered noob with one hand and steering with the other
And do you seriously pretend to have a trade mark for "the right thing" and "let go"?