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360 with kiteloop

Postby mathieu leheilleix » Wed Sep 09, 2015 9:42 pm

Hello there,

A basic question. When I do a 360 (rotating away from the kite, not towards the kite) with a kiteloop (not down loop, kiteloop) I land with my lines untangled (i don't need to swing my bar). Just checking everything is normal in such instances or I am doing something wrong..... I think it seems ok as the the bar movement on the 360 (tanglingl my lines) gets offset by the line movement on the kiteloop, correct ?? :idea:

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Re: 360 with kiteloop

Postby jespin4845 » Wed Sep 09, 2015 10:07 pm

yea ur doing a back roll + kite loop = f16...

your essentially spinning with your kite so there's no need for a bar spin

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Re: 360 with kiteloop

Postby mathieu leheilleix » Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:21 am

Thanks jespin4845 !

I had no clue that trick was called an F16 - thanks for the info !

I actually often get pulled so much downwind from the kiteloop that I end up landing the trick on the other tack (i.e. like a transition jump).

That would make it an F16 transition if such thing exists ?!?


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Re: 360 with kiteloop

Postby dragnfly » Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:28 am

It's only an F16 if it's unhooked, otherwise it's a backroll kiteloop. I'd guess your transition would be a backroll kiteloop transition, or backroll kiteloop revert, or something. Either way, fabulous trick! Good work.

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Re: 360 with kiteloop

Postby mathieu leheilleix » Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:54 am

I'd better start trying riding unhooked then because its' easier to say look @ my F16 transition rather than my backroll kiteloop transition !!!

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Re: 360 with kiteloop

Postby tautologies » Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:53 am

haha when I did unhooked kiteloops and backroll someone corrected me to say it wasn't an f16 until I was over the kite.

In my mind I don't worry about what to call it, I was more worried about the times the bar snapped out of my hands while looping the kite ;-)

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Re: 360 with kiteloop

Postby jespin4845 » Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:50 am

i just say hooked f16 or unhooked f16, same shit



easy to do, hard to make it look stylish like the video

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Re: 360 with kiteloop

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Re: 360 (invert / front) with kiteloop

Postby mathieu leheilleix » Fri Sep 11, 2015 9:19 am

Guys, sorry :( I am actually getting badly mixed up here). My question should actually relate to a trick involved is an invert 360 (front 360 - i.e. rotating toward the kite, Not away from the kite) with a kiteloop (not down loop).

My questions are: :idea:
- lines aren't tangled when landing which puzzles me somewhat (I think the kite spin on the kiteloop cancels out the lines getting tangled on the invert 360 - could someone confirm? ),
- I generally land the trick with the kite in the opposite side of the wind window (due to the kite loop) meaning that most of the time I end up doing a transition trick (i.e. I land the jump tacking on the opposite side from where I started). How do I control this better ?(the transition is generally not done intentionally !).

Thanks for any input

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Re: 360 (invert / front) with kiteloop

Postby tautologies » Fri Sep 11, 2015 9:30 am

mathieu leheilleix wrote:Guys, sorry :( I am actually getting badly mixed up here). My question should actually relate to a trick involved is an invert 360 (front 360 - i.e. rotating toward the kite, Not away from the kite) with a kiteloop (not down loop).

My questions are: :idea:
- lines aren't tangled when landing which puzzles me somewhat (I think the kite spin on the kiteloop cancels out the lines getting tangled on the invert 360 - could someone confirm? ),
- I generally land the trick with the kite in the opposite side of the wind window (due to the kite loop) meaning that most of the time I end up doing a transition trick (i.e. I land the jump tacking on the opposite side from where I started). How do I control this better ?(the transition is generally not done intentionally !).

Thanks for any input
Ok, what you are describing id a front roll with a downloop.

You can control this by being very specific on your movements. Backrolls some people gets around by throwing the board around. On front rolls, there are more separate movements. Jump, throw head. etc.
On your front roll it really depends on how much power you have when doing it. In general don;t initiate the loop until you are about half way around. The kite will pull you the rest of the way. If you ficus on using your head and let your body follow you'll be in better shape to correct the rotation.


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