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The Future of Bars?

Postby Toby » Tue Apr 19, 2016 3:29 pm

just saw this...looks like the first new bar who has the power adjuster build into the bar.

I had bars in 2002 and beyond, who had adjusters at the steering lines, but not inside the bar. But until now no one pushed this further.

This bar looks very clean, and I wonder how good it works.

I miss a microloop though! Then it could be my bar of the future.

Here an info from a german kite magazine (in German):
http://spleene-kiteboarding.com/wp/arti ... magazines/
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Re: The Future of Bars?

Postby Toby » Tue Apr 19, 2016 3:32 pm

and here the PDF to download
bar-of-the-future.pdf
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Re: The Future of Bars?

Postby foilholio » Tue Apr 19, 2016 3:41 pm

No it's not the first but it looks a new design. A few different brands have had a go but nothing ever came of it. I have doubts an internal mechanism will catch on as there is too much added complication and weight.

Toby do you ever wonder why bars which would be more suited to airstyle can't really be found? Yet nearly every bar is fine for wakestyle? When more people airstyle?
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Re: The Future of Bars?

Postby rynhardt » Tue Apr 19, 2016 3:57 pm

Looks like it's got some kind of spring loaded design. Push the button and pull against the kite to depower. Or push the button and if there's enough slack the spring winds up the line?

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Re: The Future of Bars?

Postby edt » Tue Apr 19, 2016 3:58 pm

so you put pulleys on your rear lines inside the bar and a complicated cam inside the bar so you can auto trim? no thanks.

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Re: The Future of Bars?

Postby Toby » Tue Apr 19, 2016 4:13 pm

rynhardt wrote:Looks like it's got some kind of spring loaded design. Push the button and pull against the kite to depower. Or push the button and if there's enough slack the spring winds up the line?
In the article it says it works like this:

The wind picks up and your bar is in the upper third of the depower rope, you press the button and pull the bar towards you...then it depowers by extending the steering lines.

When the wind is lighter, you move up the bar and press the button, and the steering lines will be shortened.

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Re: The Future of Bars?

Postby Toby » Tue Apr 19, 2016 4:16 pm

foilholio wrote:Toby do you ever wonder why bars which would be more suited to airstyle can't really be found? Yet nearly every bar is fine for wakestyle? When more people airstyle?
good question.

You should also ask yourself, why is freestyle the main discipline in the sport?

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Re: The Future of Bars?

Postby foilholio » Tue Apr 19, 2016 4:35 pm

I am not so sure it is. In all seriousness it would go in order of size, lawn mowing, freeriding, airstyle, waves,freestyle,wakestyle,race/hydrofoil. But nice avoiding my question.
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Re: The Future of Bars?

Postby BWD » Tue Apr 19, 2016 4:40 pm

Because the main thing to add to bars for airstyle is a microloop, which for the average-or-worse kiter is like handing them a fixed bar from 2001. Death bar. Stoppers at least can be pushed through or slid up out of the way....
You have to have both control and common sense to handle a bar/kite with no depower. You can't count on "joe kiter" to have either one of those qualities, especially when new to the sport.

Analogy to cars, it's been many years since you could buy a car that let you start the engine in gear with clutch out. even for 4x4 you have to also push the brake or a special switch before starting in gear. In the US at least. Likewise you can't put the automatic transmissions in reverse without foot on the brake. The number of people who would wreck out of control from starting in gear into traffic is small, but the safety standard exists, and people still put cars in reverse instead of first gear and drive through walls and windows, no matter what safety system or lack of system!

More interesting question to me, it's been a while so Toby could you refresh us on what you think airstyle bars should have, besides a strong stopper and/or microloop. Does the spleene back line sheeting appeal?

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Re: The Future of Bars?

Postby alamos_kiter » Tue Apr 19, 2016 5:27 pm

Good on ya bells & whistles lovers. For me a bar is an effing stick with 4 ropes attached. As simple as possible. KISS design


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